ONE SMART COOKIE

Here we go mister quantum negativety;)

Yes i have tried it myself you should know by now I never give advice unless I have used it myself first.

If you arent gear assisted then you up the protein especially after the workout ie,a double protein shake and extra bcaa`s

The DOMS subside due to the morning raises being a flushing workout to remove latic acid build up and flush the muscles with fresh blood,keep them moving and stop them from tighting up and keep em pumped to enlarge capillary growth.

Yes Arnold did do something simular for his calves when he went out to south africa to train with his idol Reg Park,but Reg had him train em heavy EVERYDAY no pumping workouts.

You have to remember this is just a shock tactic to get the calves to grow and grow they do seen it happen a few times,best gains seen were just over an inch after the 3 cycles,but it takes dedication especially the morning pumping workouts(which have to be done as fast as possible).

So to recap
3 heavy sessions and 3 pumping sessions each week with the 7th day as rest(just as GOD himself intended)

2 weeks on 1 week off

Increasing the reps for the morning workouts every cycle by 100 reps.

I have another one aswell for the seriously brave

And even a thigh workout which put a 1/4 of perminent growth on my own thighs after just 1 workout:lift:

As for being brave spdr not really that brave just

ONE MAD COOKIE:gun:

SportDr

Lol, nice one Cookie.


One point though, you do 200 reps on your calves to flush OUT the lactic acid? You are hard mate there is nooo denying it

SD

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weeks 1+2 100reps
week 3 rest
weeks 4+5 200reps
week 6 rest
weeks 7+8 300reps
week 9 have a pint on me you`ve just got bigger calves :lift:

I`m doubly hard when i manage 300 reps:p

Saying that i used to do 300 rep leg workouts(thighs only) to bring the cuts out

When doing the flushing workout speed is important just bang em out as fast as poss and this does help with keeping the lactic down and the pump up.

DB

yo cookie inform me with the thigh wrkout u got me interested!!!...starting my calve cyce 2mrw!! cheers

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I wouldnt advice doing both together but here goes.

You need a hamper of food as you`ll be in the gym for quite a few hrs,lmfao.

No seriously lots of protein shakes some carbs shakes a little creatine and lots of either bcaa`s or my fav a tub of dessicated liver tabs some kelp tabs and some brewers yeast tabs vit/min tabs.

You`ll be doing 3 workouts consisting of triple drop set of leg extensions straight into hack squats(triple drop) then front squats(triple drop) workout time about 10-15 mins no rest between exercises.

Hit the reception area and troff down the shakes tabs and creatine and rest an hr or so then do the same workout again repeat the refeed(you`ll find you`ll eat more this time)and rest a good 1.5-2hrs then do the workout 1 last time(you should feel like dying at this point and my ears should be burning with all the profanaties your saying about me)by this last workout you should only manage to be able to use your warm up weights and they should feel dam heavy.

Then massive refeed with whatever is available.

Go home rest massage feed sleep and grow.

The following are for sportsdr(save his typing fingers)lmao

Is it painfull/

You bet your life it is.

Will I be able to walk next day?

Not likely if done correctly.

Will I grow from it???

Sure will both in mass and attitude to being able to push yourself to new limits.

But its overtraining??

Not if you get the protein and aminos down it isnt plus their low volume so not too much stress on digestion and stomach as a whole.

Will I hate you at the end????

You better or you havent done it right

How much will I grow???

My legs were 2 inches bigger for about 7 days afterwards,then the swelling started to go down and I ended up with a total gain of 1/4 inch,but I didnt train legs again for 2 whole weeks as it just wasnt possible.

I give the above for informational and discussion only I accept no responsibility for time off work(due to walking like you`ve sh!t yourself badly)or falling out with wifes/girlfreinds etc cos they cant cuddle upto you in bed cos (a) your legs are sore (b)are huge due to swelling and new muscle growth.

Now go enjoy yourselfs my little cookie monsters in the making,lmfao

All hail the cookie

He`s mad bad but soft in the centre and ooohhhh so nice.

hackskii

Yah but cookie, you walk over 50 miles a week and your calves are used to the volume. This is rather alot for the average joe who drives everywhere no doing world traveling walking around

Fat people have the biggest calves ever.
Mine are rather large @ 16.5"-17", I never train them. I am afraid they will get bigger and make my quads look smaller so I dont train them at all.
I take that back, I trained them once about 5 years ago and could not walk for 3 days

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But I did all that before I became a postman

DB

wicked cookie cheers mate.. i'll give that a bash... not looking foward to the next day tho...

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I wouldn't knock anything till I tried it, shame I have just started Oppurtunitas or I would have

Guess I will have to live it vicariously through DB, he needs the workout anyways

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maybe u should try this one mate?? may get ur heart goin and u may drop abit of fat

justr did legs 2day...i'll have to persuade my training partner to have a bash at the monster session tho!!

P.s SD...either unblock me or get on msn abit more havent spoken to DN for a while ;)

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So your admitting then that you`ve only got calves because your fat



My pleasure but if done right I wouldnt look forward to the next week



Stop looking for excuses ya big girl,we all know your scared of pain:boohoo:


I wouldnt bother...mine wouldnt do it so had to do it myself with the gym owner spotting me then having to help carry me off the gym floor after the 3rd workout....legs collapsed couldnt hold me up for about an hour and I needed to eat



You can also use the same principle(multipule workouts + refeeds) to bing up lagging calves but that is another one not for the faint hearted


If your seriously going to do it DB I would shoot for at least 400-500grms protein at the gym alone(shakes aminos mostly) and spend a day or so working yourself up into a state to attack the workouts right as each one has to be total balls to the walls.

Have fun and hope it works well for ya like it did me:lift:

DB

i sent him the thread yesterday and he seems up4 it... gonna wait till he's on a cycle to give it the full effect.. ok mate i'll take plenty of shakes and amino's with me.. did u have a week off legs before and after the session?

calves one starts 2day at the gym wahoo!!

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Does hydroxyprolean acid cause muscle sorness or lactic acid?
(there is a correct answer)

part 2
what does conversion and cleaning of that acid cause in the body (hint type 2c)

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Did the leg workouts as normal durin the week then hit them with the routine on a saturday then didnt hit them again till all the soreness had gone,just wasnt possible to train and to do anymore would have been too much too soon.

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