CONFUSED ABOUT LAT PULLDOWNS!! - UK-Muscle Body Building Community

Tuna_boi · 05-11-2004, 11:24 PM

Theres a notice on the Lat Pulldown machine at my gym , which explains that Lat Pulldowns behind the neck are bad for your shoulders and dont actually activate that correct muscles( the lats)..I've started doing pulldowns to chest, is there any truth to this, should I ignore it and carry on as before..:confused:

GoldenArrow · 06-11-2004, 11:08 AM

No that's right. One of the few good things I've seen in gyms recently is they're putting the warning not to do this on most lat pulldown machines. Cool.

John · 06-11-2004, 11:32 AM

Get the lat pull/d done to the front either to the chin or right down to the chest, not leaning back but with a slight arch in the back. Same with pressing behind the neck, get that done to the front aswell, most things behind the neck can or should be done to the front.

TypeR · 06-11-2004, 12:40 PM

i always do lat pulldowns behind :o

Carnivore · 06-11-2004, 04:27 PM

im having trouble with lat pulldowns i always feel it on my biceps as much as my lats

winger · 06-11-2004, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Carnivore

im having trouble with lat pulldowns i always feel it on my biceps as much as my lats

Even with a wide grip?
Hey tuna you will get a better workout infront and no rotator problems.;)

trickymicky69 · 06-11-2004, 06:34 PM

try yoga mate! i am not taking the p***. my missus introduced me to this years ago when i was having trouble with a recurring back injury. it helps you to be more flexible and is a good pointer for any muscle imbalances that you dont know you have. go to a session you will ache like f***

Z3R0-CooL · 06-11-2004, 06:56 PM

try doing lat pdowns to the chest but with palms in at shoulder width and/or using extra wide grip...

u will train biceps with back not matter if u want to or not...... u cant possibly avoid it...

also yes it is true that lat pdowns to the back can damage the shoulder joint... however i do think that they are effective as a back exercise even though i dont do it cause i have a bad shoulder joint... pdowns to the back put a lot of stress to the erector spinae muscle all the way down and the lats as well... however if u want to "isolate" the lats front is the way to go

winger · 06-11-2004, 07:04 PM

ok try this. Lat pulldown behind the neck. Next day your outer chest will be sore. Stick to doing them in front. Actaully dont even do them at all. Do pullups. Way better in my opinion. Best back excerise there is. Dont make me go to the archives for info on pullups.

John · 06-11-2004, 07:54 PM

not everyone can do chins, and not every gym has one of these machines where you can adjust it to make it easier for you, if you cant do em, personally i cant do em, i can get about 2 or 3 out, but i wouldnt call them part of my back w/o.

winger · 06-11-2004, 07:58 PM

Do them first, then finish with the pulldowns. They are a must mate. You will get stronger dont worry. What if you were in a fight or flight scenario and you were running a way and needed to pull yourself up? It just makes for a better athlete.

John · 06-11-2004, 08:02 PM

they are the best just very hard at the minute, but lol as you say if it depended on it id prob get up there;)

Shib · 06-11-2004, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by john33

not everyone can do chins, and not every gym has one of these machines where you can adjust it to make it easier for you, if you cant do em, personally i cant do em, i can get about 2 or 3 out, but i wouldnt call them part of my back w/o.

John, ifyour gym doesnt have a pullup bar, then just use the smith machine, wack the bar up to its maximum height, voila, pullup bar

John · 06-11-2004, 08:42 PM

Its got chinning bars but i cant do them yet, the machine i was talking about you can adjust it so that when your doing them your not lifting your whole weight , the machine kind of assists you, id rather wait till i can do them on my own.;) Anyway im cool with pull downs this wasnt my post, winger just hi-jacked it again and put it on to us, as he always does, just joking wingy;) .

winger · 07-11-2004, 04:44 AM

lol, John33 you are a funny bloke. Yes I will hijack when I feel necessary, lol. Just do the damn pullups and do as your told.............lol:p

05-11-2004, 11:24 PM	#1 (permalink)
Tuna_boi Official Uk-Muscle Mascot Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Banded Posts: 931	CONFUSED ABOUT LAT PULLDOWNS!! Theres a notice on the Lat Pulldown machine at my gym , which explains that Lat Pulldowns behind the neck are bad for your shoulders and dont actually activate that correct muscles( the lats)..I've started doing pulldowns to chest, is there any truth to this, should I ignore it and carry on as before..:confused: __________________ "Don't you smile at me like that. That's not even a real smile- just a bunch of teeth playing with my mind!" "My size? My size is the amount of space I fill up. Thanks for asking." Winny is for horses-Insanity ( exactly that ) see it eat it and join a gym- Moray muscle "you musat get stronger every week to grow fast" - Myseone ( Lmfao )

06-11-2004, 11:08 AM	#2 (permalink)
GoldenArrow Gym Addict Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: London Posts: 303	No that's right. One of the few good things I've seen in gyms recently is they're putting the warning not to do this on most lat pulldown machines. Cool. __________________ I had to up my calories to over 7000 a day before I started seeing gains again. If you think that's easy, think again. And if you think you'll make gains (with or without gear) without eating a decent amount of food, think again. Also if you don't train your legs or back, you'll never reach your potential.

06-11-2004, 11:32 AM	#3 (permalink)
John EFBB Winner Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 4,245	agree Get the lat pull/d done to the front either to the chin or right down to the chest, not leaning back but with a slight arch in the back. Same with pressing behind the neck, get that done to the front aswell, most things behind the neck can or should be done to the front. __________________ *“We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them.”*

06-11-2004, 04:27 PM	#5 (permalink)
Carnivore Somewhere between depressed and suicidal Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: location, location Posts: 1,077	im having trouble with lat pulldowns i always feel it on my biceps as much as my lats __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

06-11-2004, 06:56 PM	#8 (permalink)
Z3R0-CooL Gym Addict Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: SouthWest London Posts: 369	try doing lat pdowns to the chest but with palms in at shoulder width and/or using extra wide grip... u will train biceps with back not matter if u want to or not...... u cant possibly avoid it... also yes it is true that lat pdowns to the back can damage the shoulder joint... however i do think that they are effective as a back exercise even though i dont do it cause i have a bad shoulder joint... pdowns to the back put a lot of stress to the erector spinae muscle all the way down and the lats as well... however if u want to "isolate" the lats front is the way to go __________________ Remember: "Drugs should be utilized to maximize the results of a proper lifestyle, both training and DIET. They are not there to correct your errors." "Knowledge is Power. Keep Educating yourself!!"

06-11-2004, 12:40 PM	#4 (permalink)
TypeR Hulk Join Date: May 2004 Location: Kent Posts: 1,417	i always do lat pulldowns behind :o

06-11-2004, 06:34 PM	#7 (permalink)
trickymicky69 straight talker Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: sunnyside up Posts: 1,513	try yoga mate! i am not taking the p*. my missus introduced me to this years ago when i was having trouble with a recurring back injury. it helps you to be more flexible and is a good pointer for any muscle imbalances that you dont know you have. go to a session you will ache like f*

06-11-2004, 07:04 PM	#9 (permalink)
winger UK-Muscle Male Animal Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Southern California, USA Posts: 10,314 Blog Entries: 1	ok try this. Lat pulldown behind the neck. Next day your outer chest will be sore. Stick to doing them in front. Actaully dont even do them at all. Do pullups. Way better in my opinion. Best back excerise there is. Dont make me go to the archives for info on pullups. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

06-11-2004, 07:54 PM	#10 (permalink)
John EFBB Winner Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 4,245	Winger dude not everyone can do chins, and not every gym has one of these machines where you can adjust it to make it easier for you, if you cant do em, personally i cant do em, i can get about 2 or 3 out, but i wouldnt call them part of my back w/o. __________________ *“We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them.”*

06-11-2004, 07:58 PM	#11 (permalink)
winger UK-Muscle Male Animal Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Southern California, USA Posts: 10,314 Blog Entries: 1	Do them first, then finish with the pulldowns. They are a must mate. You will get stronger dont worry. What if you were in a fight or flight scenario and you were running a way and needed to pull yourself up? It just makes for a better athlete. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

06-11-2004, 08:02 PM	#12 (permalink)
John EFBB Winner Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 4,245	Oh i agree they are the best just very hard at the minute, but lol as you say if it depended on it id prob get up there;) __________________ *“We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them.”*

06-11-2004, 08:42 PM	#14 (permalink)
John EFBB Winner Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 4,245	LOL no Shib Its got chinning bars but i cant do them yet, the machine i was talking about you can adjust it so that when your doing them your not lifting your whole weight , the machine kind of assists you, id rather wait till i can do them on my own.;) Anyway im cool with pull downs this wasnt my post, winger just hi-jacked it again and put it on to us, as he always does, just joking wingy;) . __________________ *“We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them.”* Last edited by John; 06-11-2004 at 10:52 PM.

07-11-2004, 04:44 AM	#15 (permalink)
winger UK-Muscle Male Animal Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Southern California, USA Posts: 10,314 Blog Entries: 1	lol, John33 you are a funny bloke. Yes I will hijack when I feel necessary, lol. Just do the damn pullups and do as your told.............lol:p __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.