Over heads V Skull Crushes... - UK-Muscle Body Building Community

GSleigh · 11-08-2008, 10:21 PM

I have looked at the technics and photos and i cant see a clear difference why they would provide such different results or hit the muscle differently.

Could anyone clear that up quickly?

Is the grip and and slight angle differences move the focus around the muscle?

Thank you

BIG GRANT · 11-08-2008, 10:28 PM

i belive the slightist change in angle can affect the way it hits the tricep.

GSleigh · 11-08-2008, 10:35 PM

Yea... kind of like bicep, chest or any excercise really i guess.

They just seem very slightly different from photos i been looking at.

Wanting to add a couple changes into my routine

Inggasson · 11-08-2008, 10:38 PM

For triceps, I like to do a tri-set with EZ-Bar Skull-Crushers, EZ-Bar close-grip bench press and underhand pressdowns. I was told that I should, and have found success with, hitting the triceps from as many angles as possible.

I don't like doing dumbell overheads because I always feel that arm with the uppermost hand gets hit hardest and it just feels uneven. That's probably just me though. I had the same problem with dumbell pull-overs and switched to the EZ-Bar.

BIG GRANT · 11-08-2008, 10:39 PM

when doing lying skull crushers i lower to my forhead, when doing them seated i lower behind the head just to hit them different ways.

GSleigh · 11-08-2008, 10:55 PM

Ah spot on. Yea i am going to mix up my routine a bit from next week and add some variations of this

**Nytol** · 12-08-2008, 11:42 AM

Overheads give the long head of the tricep the greatest stretch and IMO are the best tricep isolation movement.

Over heads and Parallel bar dips, perfect tricep training.

GSleigh · 12-08-2008, 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nytol

Overheads give the long head of the tricep the greatest stretch and IMO are the best tricep isolation movement.

Over heads and Parallel bar dips, perfect tricep training.

Parallel bar dips. I do these but they are way to easy.. can do sets and sets with high reps and a good deep dip..

I want to add weight but find it hard to hold between feet... Whats best way to load weight up?

Any equipment i can buy or advice?

thestudbeast · 12-08-2008, 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GSleigh

Parallel bar dips. I do these but they are way to easy.. can do sets and sets with high reps and a good deep dip..

I want to add weight but find it hard to hold between feet... Whats best way to load weight up?

Any equipment i can buy or advice?

A belt, piece of chain, clip and away you go or buy a dipping belt.

**Nytol** · 12-08-2008, 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GSleigh

Parallel bar dips. I do these but they are way to easy.. can do sets and sets with high reps and a good deep dip..

I want to add weight but find it hard to hold between feet... Whats best way to load weight up?

Any equipment i can buy or advice?

Up to 2 x 20kg plates I use a Judo belt, I find it keep the plates nice and tight, any more than that, and I need to use a dipping belt, they are only about £15, if your gym does not have one, well worth the investment as dips are king.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRTNVZmvNPQ

You can see how the Judo belt works in that video, not the best dips, I was trying something new, but you get the idea with the belt.

GSleigh · 12-08-2008, 02:05 PM

Cool. I will get a dipping belt then. Looking around the internet. Couple variations on this. Whats best recommended one and what company to trust?

Thanks guys for all help. Getting rep

Gone for this one:

http://monstersupplements.com/store/...html&rewrite=1

BIG GRANT · 12-08-2008, 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nytol

Up to 2 x 20kg plates I use a Judo belt, I find it keep the plates nice and tight, any more than that, and I need to use a dipping belt, they are only about £15, if your gym does not have one, well worth the investment as dips are king.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRTNVZmvNPQ

You can see how the Judo belt works in that video, not the best dips, I was trying something new, but you get the idea with the belt.

nytol would u recomend me dropping close grip benches for dips??

paulo · 12-08-2008, 08:20 PM

agree with the big nytol- i do 3 sets of dips on chest day 20k 30k 40k for 8s and then 50k dbell pullovers, exellent for triceps and are strong point and big(ish) no pushdowns kickbacks etc etc etc
do the big exercises to pack on mass --then if want to cut up etc do that much later
try this session,it works

GSleigh · 12-08-2008, 09:45 PM

Lets hope it turns up soon then so i can start adding that weight up and blitzing em!

**Nytol** · 12-08-2008, 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BIG GRANT

nytol would u recomend me dropping close grip benches for dips??

I like them both mate, years of training alone made me favor dips, and if I had to choose one I'd go for dips, but Close Grip (but not too close, shoulder width, going heavy), are excellent, infact I may add them in again,

11-08-2008, 10:21 PM	#1 (permalink)
GSleigh Feels his gym sessions are intense! Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Nottingham Posts: 907	Over heads V Skull Crushes... I have looked at the technics and photos and i cant see a clear difference why they would provide such different results or hit the muscle differently. Could anyone clear that up quickly? Is the grip and and slight angle differences move the focus around the muscle? Thank you

11-08-2008, 10:28 PM	#2 (permalink)
BIG GRANT BULK HOGAN IN THE MAKING!! Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: boston Posts: 342	Re: Over heads V Skull Crushes... i belive the slightist change in angle can affect the way it hits the tricep.

11-08-2008, 10:35 PM	#3 (permalink)
GSleigh Feels his gym sessions are intense! Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Nottingham Posts: 907	Re: Over heads V Skull Crushes... Yea... kind of like bicep, chest or any excercise really i guess. They just seem very slightly different from photos i been looking at. Wanting to add a couple changes into my routine

11-08-2008, 10:38 PM	#4 (permalink)
Inggasson Harder, Better, Faster, Stronger Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Ross-On-Wye Posts: 508 Blog Entries: 11	Re: Over heads V Skull Crushes... For triceps, I like to do a tri-set with EZ-Bar Skull-Crushers, EZ-Bar close-grip bench press and underhand pressdowns. I was told that I should, and have found success with, hitting the triceps from as many angles as possible. I don't like doing dumbell overheads because I always feel that arm with the uppermost hand gets hit hardest and it just feels uneven. That's probably just me though. I had the same problem with dumbell pull-overs and switched to the EZ-Bar.

11-08-2008, 10:39 PM	#5 (permalink)
BIG GRANT BULK HOGAN IN THE MAKING!! Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: boston Posts: 342	Re: Over heads V Skull Crushes... when doing lying skull crushers i lower to my forhead, when doing them seated i lower behind the head just to hit them different ways.

11-08-2008, 10:55 PM	#6 (permalink)
GSleigh Feels his gym sessions are intense! Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Nottingham Posts: 907	Re: Over heads V Skull Crushes... Ah spot on. Yea i am going to mix up my routine a bit from next week and add some variations of this

12-08-2008, 11:42 AM	#7 (permalink)
Nytol All Knowing Moderator Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: UK Posts: 4,521	Re: Over heads V Skull Crushes... Overheads give the long head of the tricep the greatest stretch and IMO are the best tricep isolation movement. Over heads and Parallel bar dips, perfect tricep training.

12-08-2008, 02:05 PM	#11 (permalink)
GSleigh Feels his gym sessions are intense! Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Nottingham Posts: 907	Re: Over heads V Skull Crushes... Cool. I will get a dipping belt then. Looking around the internet. Couple variations on this. Whats best recommended one and what company to trust? Thanks guys for all help. Getting rep Gone for this one: http://monstersupplements.com/store/...html&rewrite=1 Last edited by GSleigh; 12-08-2008 at 02:10 PM.

12-08-2008, 08:20 PM	#13 (permalink)
paulo Getting HUGE! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: north Posts: 1,058	Re: Over heads V Skull Crushes... agree with the big nytol- i do 3 sets of dips on chest day 20k 30k 40k for 8s and then 50k dbell pullovers, exellent for triceps and are strong point and big(ish) no pushdowns kickbacks etc etc etc do the big exercises to pack on mass --then if want to cut up etc do that much later try this session,it works

12-08-2008, 09:45 PM	#14 (permalink)
GSleigh Feels his gym sessions are intense! Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Nottingham Posts: 907	Re: Over heads V Skull Crushes... Lets hope it turns up soon then so i can start adding that weight up and blitzing em!

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