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Old 05-08-2008, 09:17 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Re: Use of straps for deadlifting

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wrist straps are a shat invention and should be filed straight into the bin.

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They do work very well you go beyond grip strength to deadlift more weight, what is wrong with that ???

Some do have megga grip strength but more often than not the grip gives out before the back with deadlifts.

Try some grip exercises a simple hang we used to do when engaged in a powerlifting routine simply hang off a chin bar for a few mins, freaking sounds easy but give it a try at the end of any workout (other than legs).

Due to breaking several bones in my hand, i have to use straps most of the time when deadlifting.
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Old 05-08-2008, 09:24 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Re: Use of straps for deadlifting

I think Nytol uses liquid chalk for most big lifts IIRC.

Although I have seen him use straps before.
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Old 05-08-2008, 09:34 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Re: Use of straps for deadlifting

back training is for your back, train forearms seperatley IMO.
use straps so you can lift heavier on back exercises, dont be limited by your grip

there is no gripper round on a bodybuilding stage if you want to compete.

if you want to have a strong grip, try and avoid straps
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Old 05-08-2008, 10:23 AM   #19 (permalink)
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Re: Use of straps for deadlifting

I used to use straps but then decided to do the lift raw, tbh at first it was hard but my grip improved and now I prefer not to use straps... each to their own though...
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Old 05-08-2008, 10:45 AM   #20 (permalink)
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Re: Use of straps for deadlifting

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i use straps only on heavy sets where i really need to

gloves do nothing for me

Me too. Straps have their place when lifting heavy. If you're worried about grip and forearm strength then train this separately.
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Old 05-08-2008, 11:18 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Re: Use of straps for deadlifting

Depends what your after.

Looking at building mass overall? leave the straps in the bag, uses chalk and a mixed grip.

Looking at lifting big weights, yeah, sure, use whatever you can/are allowed to in competition.

That said, If your training back and arms(forearms/grip) on different days, then i dont see a problem with using them. It all depends on the type of training your doing.
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Old 05-08-2008, 11:23 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Re: Use of straps for deadlifting

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I believe Nytol uses straps and can lift 300kg +.

Are you going to tell him to man up?

Everyone is different - it's not about 'manning up' at all.
Lol,

I did always used to use straps, as I had no plans to pull in competition, so a double over hand grip was safer for the biceps.

When I did want to lift in a comp, I weaned myself off of them over a period of months, never had an issue.

I have not gone back to using them, and now prefer to pull without.

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That is the chalk I use, I find it better than normal chalk TBH, less mess too.
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Old 05-08-2008, 12:15 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Re: Use of straps for deadlifting

I use straps when im lifting at\near my limit as its one less thing to worry about.
Then i lift without them after i have hit my max.

Why cant you just utilise both ways and get best of both worlds.
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Old 05-08-2008, 12:37 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Re: Use of straps for deadlifting

Someone at the gym was preaching saying if you want big forearms then don't use straps, blah blah blah. So when I started deadifting using straps he soon shut up, as they don't call me popeye for eating spinach LOL!

I think straps are a good addition.. I currently have a broken finger which means I can't close my left hand fully therefore they are a must! Either way I would still use them!
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Re: Use of straps for deadlifting

Just wear leather training gloves with suede palms- helps me grip the bar when I am soaked in sweat- each to their own!
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Re: Use of straps for deadlifting

I have to say that I dont find straps to be much help with the deadlift, if I am lifting heavy I will use an alternate grip with chalk. But as said above each to their own, I dont think there is really a hard and fast rule.
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Old 06-08-2008, 01:15 PM   #27 (permalink)
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Re: Use of straps for deadlifting

i use straps when deadlifting but only when i get close to my max.. so the last set or so.
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Re: Use of straps for deadlifting

Thanks for all of the replies, i have jsut been using a conventional grip but i have started using alturnate when my grip started to give out and i kept swapping hands till i did all 10 reps which definately helped.
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Re: Use of straps for deadlifting

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I believe Nytol uses straps and can lift 300kg +.

Are you going to tell him to man up?

Everyone is different - it's not about 'manning up' at all.
you are missing the point.

pulling 300kgs off the floor would involve pulling around 3xbodyweight

pulling 97.5kgs off the floor is approx 1xbodyweight........

see where i am going with this?

i would expect most beginners to be able to do sets of 100kgs if they have there form correct and keep the bar dragging up there shins
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Old 12-08-2008, 04:53 PM   #30 (permalink)
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Re: Use of straps for deadlifting

i reckon use straps when your grip tires out.. dont let your grip sacrifice your back work out, you working your back not your grip.

Do as many as you can without the straps first tho..
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