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Foz1 · 27-08-2004, 12:26 PM

Hey guys,

A bloke in my gym has just told me that whilst doing shoulder press for me to keep my legs raised off the ground, this will then isolate the delts and stop me using my legs in any way to move the weight.

I thought about this and feel this may put unnessesery strain on my back.

I wanted to run this past you guys before I try it and end up slipping a disk or something.

Your advice will be much appreciated.

Cheers,

Foz

Jock · 27-08-2004, 01:02 PM

:confused: :confused: :confused: ??????????

Never heard of that before mate, sounds like a circus trick or something.

IMO just stick to compound exercises low volume heavy, weight.

Standing Military Press is awesome for shoulder/delt development.

Jock

demon · 27-08-2004, 01:21 PM

I think it would be very difficult to keep good form (e.g. not bend your back or anything) if you lifted your feet off the ground. And I doubt if there'd be much benefit either.

Hardrive · 27-08-2004, 01:57 PM

Dont take much notice foz1 of the guy that told you that IMHO you might injure your back, your back is so complex just stick with basic's there are a lot of people who get these ideas and some of them seem logical and you can see where they come from.
When I did go to the gym before I got weights at home I did notice like locker room gossip. You did the best thing to ask on here or on any forum that have experanced weightlifters...........

John · 27-08-2004, 05:03 PM

not on shoulders though, when i was benching when i start to tire i start to move my feet,lol ive no idea why i do it prob just tired, anyway some guy said i was using energy i said ok thanks, lol but i thought it was a lot of sh*te!

**hackskii** · 27-08-2004, 05:58 PM

No mate, keep the feet planted. This will help you with power and this is a good thing. Feet should sit firmly on the ground, bench, military etc.
If it hurts your back then do not do them.
Lots of power comes from the legs supporting the body.
Grip the bar firm too.

Foz1 · 27-08-2004, 08:32 PM

Nice one lads, I thought he was talking bs myself.

Foz

31-08-2004, 12:04 AM

Dont mean to be funny,But all this nonsense about keeping your feet of the ground and stuff is crap.I saw a woman doing dumbell curls last week with one foot of the ground and felt like asking her what the **** are u doing,Go join a circus or something..I mean with both feet on the ground you will be able to concentrate more and use more wieght to work the shoulders which is what you want to be doing instead of trying to balance and not fall over..Just my 2 c.

winger · 31-08-2004, 02:59 AM

Feet on the ground you can use more weight. The more weight the bigger you will get. Usable muscle. If I push someone, I would hope they felt it.

SportDr · 04-09-2004, 10:07 AM

I can see where the guy was coming from, with both feet off the ground you have to stabilise the movement using synergist muscles in the back and shoulders. This would be good if it wasn't for the hazard represented by the loss of stability.

Don't take any risks with back or shoulders, plant the feet and use that stability to push more weight, safely!

Regards

SD

evilbob · 19-09-2004, 07:02 PM

I have seen this by people doing bench press but not for shoulder press.

For some people if the weight is very heavy they push with there leg to move the weight but that is so not good.

what is the point in using very big weight if your not putting the emphasis on the muscle your working.

There is too big a hazard doing it as you cannot be that stable

Don't take any risks with your back plant the feet and use that stability

22-09-2004, 09:36 AM

stand up for all overhead pressing. anything else is just gay porn

DB · 22-09-2004, 10:45 AM

feet up on shoulder press will increase core stability, my mates a skier and she does all kinds of sh1t like that, depends what ur goals are matey

p.s my feet stay planted to the floor BTW

22-09-2004, 12:43 PM

if you stand up it will use your core FAR more than anything seated.

22-09-2004, 12:43 PM

not only that, but the pressure on your spine is greatly reduced when standing. that way, its the musculature that bares the weight, not the bones and cartilige.

27-08-2004, 12:26 PM	#1 (permalink)
Foz1 Gym Addict Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Manchester Posts: 339	Need advice on technique Hey guys, A bloke in my gym has just told me that whilst doing shoulder press for me to keep my legs raised off the ground, this will then isolate the delts and stop me using my legs in any way to move the weight. I thought about this and feel this may put unnessesery strain on my back. I wanted to run this past you guys before I try it and end up slipping a disk or something. Your advice will be much appreciated. Cheers, Foz

27-08-2004, 01:02 PM	#2 (permalink)
Jock LEAGUE LEGEND! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: UK Posts: 3,039	:confused: :confused: :confused: ?????????? Never heard of that before mate, sounds like a circus trick or something. IMO just stick to compound exercises low volume heavy, weight. Standing Military Press is awesome for shoulder/delt development. Jock __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

27-08-2004, 01:21 PM	#3 (permalink)
demon Looking Freaky Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Northern Ireland Posts: 809	I think it would be very difficult to keep good form (e.g. not bend your back or anything) if you lifted your feet off the ground. And I doubt if there'd be much benefit either. __________________ DEMON "We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence then, is not an act, but a habit." - Aristotle

27-08-2004, 01:57 PM	#4 (permalink)
Hardrive Gym Addict Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: uk Posts: 154	Dont take much notice foz1 of the guy that told you that IMHO you might injure your back, your back is so complex just stick with basic's there are a lot of people who get these ideas and some of them seem logical and you can see where they come from. When I did go to the gym before I got weights at home I did notice like locker room gossip. You did the best thing to ask on here or on any forum that have experanced weightlifters........... __________________ "One man has enthusiasm for 30 minutes, another for 30 days, but it is the man who has it for 30 years who makes a success of his life." ----------------------------------

27-08-2004, 05:03 PM	#5 (permalink)
John EFBB Winner Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 4,245	ive been told that to mate not on shoulders though, when i was benching when i start to tire i start to move my feet,lol ive no idea why i do it prob just tired, anyway some guy said i was using energy i said ok thanks, lol but i thought it was a lot of sh*te!

27-08-2004, 05:58 PM	#6 (permalink)
hackskii UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sunny Southern California U.S.A. Posts: 23,164	No mate, keep the feet planted. This will help you with power and this is a good thing. Feet should sit firmly on the ground, bench, military etc. If it hurts your back then do not do them. Lots of power comes from the legs supporting the body. Grip the bar firm too. __________________ "Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away." - George Carlin Scott To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

27-08-2004, 08:32 PM	#7 (permalink)
Foz1 Gym Addict Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Manchester Posts: 339	Nice one lads, I thought he was talking bs myself. Foz

31-08-2004, 12:04 AM	#8 (permalink)
monkeyboi Guest Posts: n/a	Dont mean to be funny,But all this nonsense about keeping your feet of the ground and stuff is crap.I saw a woman doing dumbell curls last week with one foot of the ground and felt like asking her what the **** are u doing,Go join a circus or something..I mean with both feet on the ground you will be able to concentrate more and use more wieght to work the shoulders which is what you want to be doing instead of trying to balance and not fall over..Just my 2 c.

31-08-2004, 02:59 AM	#9 (permalink)
winger UK-Muscle Male Animal Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Southern California, USA Posts: 10,259 Blog Entries: 1	Feet on the ground you can use more weight. The more weight the bigger you will get. Usable muscle. If I push someone, I would hope they felt it. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

04-09-2004, 10:07 AM	#10 (permalink)
SportDr Getting HUGE! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: E-Sussex UK Posts: 2,623	I can see where the guy was coming from, with both feet off the ground you have to stabilise the movement using synergist muscles in the back and shoulders. This would be good if it wasn't for the hazard represented by the loss of stability. Don't take any risks with back or shoulders, plant the feet and use that stability to push more weight, safely! Regards SD

19-09-2004, 07:02 PM	#11 (permalink)
evilbob Newbie Trainer Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 63	I have seen this by people doing bench press but not for shoulder press. For some people if the weight is very heavy they push with there leg to move the weight but that is so not good. what is the point in using very big weight if your not putting the emphasis on the muscle your working. There is too big a hazard doing it as you cannot be that stable Don't take any risks with your back plant the feet and use that stability

22-09-2004, 09:36 AM	#12 (permalink)
James.Titor Guest Posts: n/a	stand up for all overhead pressing. anything else is just gay porn

22-09-2004, 10:45 AM	#13 (permalink)
DB UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: SW London Posts: 11,223	feet up on shoulder press will increase core stability, my mates a skier and she does all kinds of sh1t like that, depends what ur goals are matey p.s my feet stay planted to the floor BTW

22-09-2004, 12:43 PM	#14 (permalink)
James.Titor Guest Posts: n/a	if you stand up it will use your core FAR more than anything seated.

22-09-2004, 12:43 PM	#15 (permalink)
James.Titor Guest Posts: n/a	not only that, but the pressure on your spine is greatly reduced when standing. that way, its the musculature that bares the weight, not the bones and cartilige.