Mrdaveyk

hhmm this has gone off the rails abit, can we sum up that its all down to how it hits your own pecs

if you see no progress then raise the issue of changing form

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Nytol

Im not disputing what works and doesn't work for you bud, all I am saying is its plain to see that the movement performed in your vid is 'traditionally' a press and not a fly, if this works for you then happy days, but iam afraid hugging a tree would indeed resemble more of a fly.

I am a WABBA P.T. and if during a practical exam, i was asked to perform a fly and did so as you did in your vid, I would be marked down and surely fail.
As I stated originally, i am refering to 'traditional methods'. Many pro BB's employ their own techniques whilst performing exercises as it works best for them, but it still doesn't alter the fact that tradition is tradition!

Regardless of my point, from watching your vid, your form and speed of movement are indeed very strict, however the triceps are still brought into contention - anyone can see that.

Nytol

If you press like that, then you should have failed that bit of your course,

Tree Hugging still brings the triceps in, and the front delts, my flyes for me, cause the pecs to fail before the triceps are even slightly fatigued.

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fxleisure

Haha,
I wouldn't press like that either mate, but my point was aimed at your movement itself resembling a press and not that of a fly.
Ive seen some damn awful flys in my time, but thats down to poor technique, you don't have poor technique (very far from poor infact), but a fly is still a fly !
On another note, thats some impressive deadlifting in your other vid, Im really lagging in the hamstring area (my weakest bodypart) and could do with taking a leaf out of your book by slapping a few more plates on the end of my BarBell LOL, i much prefer dumbbells.

TH&S

Nytol...

It's time to face up to some home truths...

Your flye form stinks...
Your feet stink...
After too much cabbage you stink...

:love:

PMSL

All this over some Incline Flyes.

Did you get the Le Mans version of the A6...?

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estfna

I thought that they were more of a press-flye motion, but each to their own you obviously know what your doing. James does them similar to you in his vid, I used to do them as you do, but it wasn't doing much for me, triceps were failing before chest. Now I use the "tree hugging" motion and they hit pecs alot better.

BLUE(UK)

I aint gonna say which i think is right and which is wrong but what i will say is,when i do the bloody things(in the correct way),it hurts my shoulders and i end up with injuries.




Pssst,it's because of overstretching.

BrokenBack

dude im strungling to see a fly in that clip, just looks like a press with sloppy form? i could under stand more if it was a hammer press, though the whole reason for flyes was isolation... not compound?

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geeby112

I set the incline around 45 degrees then lean my head just over the edge as when i do my flys i feel that my shoulders are neglected and upper chest gets almost all the stress:lift:

BrokenBack

will have to try that next time, cheers for the tip.

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Lea

I actually prefer flyes to pressing I find I get a better range of movement and am able to get a better squeeze or contraction.

Flat or incline I love doing them...tree hugging style bringing my arms back as far as possible and lifting my head off the bench feeling the stretch...

I cant wait till I train tommorrow now....