Mrdaveyk

ive read a few times that the ez curl bar is a bunch of pants as apparently it makes curling 'ez'

i know this aint true

but what i wanna know is what exactly is the difference in curling with a BB and an EZ bar

is it just less strain on the wrist? is there a difference in muscles that are targeted

starting tomoz im getting into my new workout and diet is being pushed more, so little query's like this i would like 'ironed out' as they say

cheers guys, Dai

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Big_Dan

alternate them mate !!

i find barbell is good for bulking up my biceps, thats my opinion !
Ez bar i find is good, i feel it working the brachiallis more,

just make sure your technique right, biceps will growth either way !

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cellaratt

I have to agree with the above statement.

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Mrdaveyk

wouldn't believe how many muscle names i have to google being a member here

by brachiallis you mean the forearm area?

my technique is straight back with 1 second up, 3 second down with no pause

i used to be a git for leaning backwards near failing, but i got out of the habit, now i just scream like a girl!

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Mrdaveyk

for example i cant help but feel this is poor technique, near the end it actually looks like hes using his squatting motion to jimmy up the BB

http://youtube.com/watch?v=tndGhco_L08

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cellaratt

I think there is 2 schools of thought to this question. One from a bb point of view and one from a powerlifters point of view. In bodybuilding they would say stay strick to the form and with this I agree to a certain point on certain exercises...then from a power point of view if your not cheating your not trying...if you don't get the oppertunity to really feel the heavy weights I don't believe you will effectively gain the strength. I'm sure nobody will agree with this , but I like to look at things from other than the mainstream views...

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Big_Dan

brachiallis , runs from your forearm up between your tricep and bicep mate

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Mrdaveyk

na thats a valid point, but the whole 'if you're not cheating then you're not trying' does throw me abit, but then again when you are cheating, does that not just mean you are hitting more than the originally targeted muscles

but like you say there are two sides to that arguement

in my case im sticking to strict form just so i know im maximizing my targeted muscle group

cheers for the advise though, ill vary the bars every week or something

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Big_Dan

keeping it strict is the way to go, There is nothing wrong with a little cheat, as if u watch any body building video, and they do tend to cheat,
but i can see that you have got a good head on your shoulders, soo i wont say anymore !

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cellaratt

This is just a quick example of my routine...it's not tweaked yet but may give you something differant to do..

Back, Bi's

T-Bar:
Warm-up Set: 45 lbs for 15 reps
1st Set: 90 lbs. for 10 reps
2nd Set: 135 lbs. for 10 reps
3rd Set: 160 lbs.for 9 reps

Wide Grip Cable Rows:

1st Set: 130 lbs for 10 reps
2nd Set: 140 lbs for 10 reps
3rd Set: 150 lbs for 10 reps

Shrugs:

1st Set: 252 lbs. for 10 reps
2nd Set: 264 lbs. for 10 reps
3rd Set: 276 lbs. for 10 reps

Standing Alternating Dumbell curl:

1st Set: 35s for 10 reps
2nd Set: 35's for 10 reps
3rd Set: 35's for 10 reps

Immediately Followed By

Concentration curls

1st Set: 20"s for 10 reps
2nd Set: 20"s for 10 reps
3rd Set: 20's for 10 reps

It should also be noted I do back and bi's twice a week and the second day is differant in some exercises

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cellaratt

Just wanted to add that my training partner until he met me had never really done any direct bicep work and had a 18 " arm so there is something to the powerlifting side of gaining size...After switching to bb he didn't gain much size but his bi was more astatically pleaseing

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Mrdaveyk

Magic! cheers guys!

cheers for posting the routine aswell, reminded me i haven't got shrugs in my routine so ill wedge them in

Reps for all!

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cellaratt

Dave thought I'd add this in for ya...





And my other day would go something like this

Back, Bi's

Close Grip Seated Cable Rows:

1st Set: 130 lbs. for 10 reps
2nd Set: 140 lbs. for 10 reps
3rd Set: 150 lbs.for 9 reps

One Arm DB ROws:

1st Set: 45's for 10 reps
2nd Set: 55's for 10 reps
3rd Set: 60's for 10 reps

Shrugs:

1st Set: 252 lbs. for 10 reps
2nd Set: 264 lbs. for 10 reps
3rd Set: 276 lbs. for 8 reps

Incline Alternating Dumbell curl

1st Set: 30s for 10 reps
2nd Set: 30's for 8 reps
3rd Set: 30's for 8 reps

Hammer curls

1st Set: 35s for 10 reps
2nd Set: 35's for 10 reps

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Mrdaveyk

he 'cheats' at the end but if it means he got another 2/3 reps out of it, it cant be wrong!

cheers for posting that, your a star! when i lower the weight im going to do it slowly, not sure if it actually helps but the 'ripping' feeling you get does give me a hell of alot of motivation, makes me feel like im earning it hehe

also gives me a better 'pump' when im done

while you are still here though, hammer curls, do they help peak the outside of the bicep? i may be wording it wrong, but i see two peaks on my bicep

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cellaratt

I would say that the hammer curl hits the brachialis and the brachioradialis giving you a more full or round bicep not necessarally a peak. If you cross in front of the chest during hammer curls you will incorporate the forearm aswell. If your looking to peak the brachialis I would say to use a wider grip on which ever bicep exercise you are doing...I hope I'm right and I hope this helps...

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