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Old 15-03-2008, 12:21 AM   #31 (permalink)
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Re: I have no wings :(

Dumbell rows are my current favourite.

I've found the trick is to maintain more of a right angle between forearm and upper arm, thus keeping the weight more toward the waist than the shoulder. You can really feel the lat doing the work this way.

Either than or how about Red Bull?
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Old 21-04-2008, 10:20 AM   #32 (permalink)
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Ok, I currently do a push/pull/leg day. The bits on my back under my arms (my wings, cant remember proper name!) Do not seem to be growing. I thought they were but I cant even feel muscle there! Im doing deadlifts, straight legged dead lifts, Lat pull downs - although my gym we have some proper gay machine that I put on max weight and its not even hard :/ and I do bent over rows, 5x5 at around 70k but still no growth! Have slowed down the sets and reps but still nothing, any thing I can chuck in the mix?
Do the pull-up (chin-ups). You will be amazed how extensively that can recruit your Teres major, Teres minor, Infraspinatus, Latissimus dorsi, Latissimus dorsi aponeurosis, Rhomboides, and the Trapezius inferior part---all of which make up your "wings". I don't know what type of pull-up bar your gym has, but the more variations of this motion the better. I built an outdoor Total Body Weight Gym in my garden that has two types of bars that allow several variations of the pull-up. But then I had mine custom-made. I live in the the Sun now... in the tropics. I'm done with good ole blighty!

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Do the pull-up (chin-ups). You will be amazed how extensively that can recruit your Teres major, Teres minor, Infraspinatus, Latissimus dorsi, Latissimus dorsi aponeurosis, Rhomboides, and the Trapezius inferior part---all of which make up your "wings". I don't know what type of pull-up bar your gym has, but the more variations of this motion the better. I built a gym in my garden that has two types of bars that allow several variations of the pull-up. But then I had mine custom-made. I live in the the Sun now... in the tropics. I'm done with good ole blighty!

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Thanks matey I can not do pull ups though! Once I can I will be hitting these!
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Thanks matey I can not do pull ups though! Once I can I will be hitting these!
Oh yes you can! Get a stool. Put one leg on it, and let the other leg dangle. Once you get used to that, use that as a warm-up set and then let go of the leg for as many reps as you can, even if it's just one or two reps. Only way to go mate! Pull-ups are HARD WORK, and there's no getting used to them. Just get on with it. It gets easier.
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Yeti - do lat pulldowns dude.

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Hi Buddy, I have been doing them, although the machine is not ideal for lat pull downs (we dont have a proper lat pull down machine its more like a shoulder(sp) working thing, But I lean back and pull down so its like lat pull down lol. Only problem with that is I put it on max weight and I do the 3x10 no problem at all. Not even really hurting -.-

Thanks for the advice tojona, im 22 and half stone at the moment dude I litteraly cant pull my self up lol.
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Hi Buddy, I have been doing them, although the machine is not ideal for lat pull downs (we dont have a proper lat pull down machine its more like a shoulder(sp) working thing, But I lean back and pull down so its like lat pull down lol. Only problem with that is I put it on max weight and I do the 3x10 no problem at all. Not even really hurting -.-

Thanks for the advice tojona, im 22 and half stone at the moment dude I litteraly cant pull my self up lol.

Not the safest recommendation I will ever make but in our gym when we get past what the max stack weight is we add on a DB's, seen additional 80 lbs added by stacking 2X 40 lbs DB stacked on each other...Not completely fool proof....But we have been doing it like that for yrs....
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You could also try Stiff Arm Pull Downs...Maybe...Might help...Cheers
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I dont think the gap is big enough to add extra weight :( Thanks though for the other suggestion I will look in to that
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