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Old 13-02-2008, 04:15 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Why in the world would you leave the best back builder out of the equation:confused:
I wondered that. Deads are an awesome movement for all round back development.
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Old 13-02-2008, 04:16 PM   #32 (permalink)
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[quote=Nine Pack;377304]News to me, but this sounds like a theory that may have resulted in a little more fatigue in the rear delts, giving the impression by the subject that the lats had been hit due to doms in the general area. Wide grip rows will generally place the emphasis on the rear delts, mid traps & rhomboids more than the lats. It's impossible to say this would work for everyone due to everyone having slightly different insertion points, varying degrees of shoulder position when training etc. The lats are such a massive group of fibres that it's virtually impossible to fire off a selected portion at will, or even force it with a different grip. The muscle is designed to work as a whole.

P.S JW007, I could put 2" either side on your lat spread with some tweaks to your posing, but a fine pair of wings either way.[/quote]

you mean i could more awesome than i think i am already??? lol
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Old 13-02-2008, 04:18 PM   #33 (permalink)
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I'd need to actually show you as opposed to attempting to describe it. Come & see the gym when we open & I'll show you.
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Re: Best For Lat Width....
I'm have knee/hamstring probs, went to see the physio this morning and he thinks it might have something to do with my L1/L2 vertabre, so suggested I leave deads out for a while.

On another note, really need to build my lats up
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Old 13-02-2008, 04:29 PM   #35 (permalink)
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I'd need to actually show you as opposed to attempting to describe it. Come & see the gym when we open & I'll show you.

Thats Bl00dy manchester lol, cant you video it?
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Old 13-02-2008, 06:40 PM   #36 (permalink)
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Thats Bl00dy manchester lol, cant you video it?
Why, are you down there in France like James?
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Well you learn something every day.

So I'm best off not bothering with any wide grip lat work?
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Why in the world would you leave the best back builder out of the equation:confused:
Can I ask,how is this the best back builder??
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Can I ask,how is this the best back builder??
I'll answer that with a question, which muscles do you think you recruit when performing deadlifts?
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I'm only going to say this one more time; wide grip does not automatically equate to wide lats. It's a complete fallacy. The wider the grip, the more danger you put the shoulder joint in and the less stretch you put the lats under at the midpoint. Period.

The lats have one major function, to draw the arms back. Rows, rows, rows, deadlifts & rows. Pulldowns are also good, but narrow to moderate grip is best. Now I don't care if Franco or anyone else for that matter did wide grip chins & had a good back. They would have most certainly done heavy rowing movements as the staple movement so their lats would have been good anyway.
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you learn something everyday. cutting out the widegrip pulldowns now and injecting more rows thanks guys
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me too!, stil will do my 3 sets of chins to behind neck first though-with20k

then do more row movements-got a great machine for that now
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you learn something everyday. cutting out the widegrip pulldowns now and injecting more rows thanks guys
That would also work
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