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Old 13-02-2008, 11:30 AM   #16 (permalink)
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9Pack - correct me if I'm wrong here, but I was under the impression that Wide Grip Rows, with correct retraction of the scapula, and formed with a weight at which form remained perfect and ensuring a squeeze at the top and constant tension throughout the movement would target the fibres in the outler lats...?
No, thats like saying preacher curls give you a peak, and standing barbell just give you mass.
shape is all down to genetics
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Old 13-02-2008, 11:58 AM   #17 (permalink)
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No, thats like saying preacher curls give you a peak, and standing barbell just give you mass.
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Genetics excluded - you're saying the above exercise doesn't target those fibres?
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Genetics excluded - you're saying the above exercise doesn't target those fibres?

No more than normal width bent over rows or close grip chins, in fact probably less as there is less strain on back and more on biceps...

I have hardly ever done wide grip stuff and my back is prob my best body part...
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Old 13-02-2008, 12:09 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Fook me, that is one massive back!
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No more than normal width bent over rows or close grip chins, in fact probably less as there is less strain on back and more on biceps...

I have hardly ever done wide grip stuff and my back is prob my best body part...
You did that to show off didn't ya.... :love:
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i dont do any chins or wide stuff either :-)
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You did that to show off didn't ya.... :love:

lol just proving my point mate
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Awesome back JW.

Could you make the picture a bit bigger though !
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Awesome back JW.

Could you make the picture a bit bigger though !
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couldnt be bothered fo faff around making it bigger, i think it serves its purpose PMSL
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Re: Best For Lat Width....
I remember reading somewhere that with wide grip pull downs you limit the amount of work the lats do as they can't work through a full ROM, if you do reverse close grip chins you get a lot more stretch, so would be working them more.
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I remember reading somewhere that with wide grip pull downs you limit the amount of work the lats do as they can't work through a full ROM, if you do reverse close grip chins you get a lot more stretch, so would be working them more.

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and for all the people who dont have a 21" screen....

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now thats a back, i better get started!!
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9Pack - correct me if I'm wrong here, but I was under the impression that Wide Grip Rows, with correct retraction of the scapula, and formed with a weight at which form remained perfect and ensuring a squeeze at the top and constant tension throughout the movement would target the fibres in the outler lats...?
News to me, but this sounds like a theory that may have resulted in a little more fatigue in the rear delts, giving the impression by the subject that the lats had been hit due to doms in the general area. Wide grip rows will generally place the emphasis on the rear delts, mid traps & rhomboids more than the lats. It's impossible to say this would work for everyone due to everyone having slightly different insertion points, varying degrees of shoulder position when training etc. The lats are such a massive group of fibres that it's virtually impossible to fire off a selected portion at will, or even force it with a different grip. The muscle is designed to work as a whole.

P.S JW007, I could put 2" either side on your lat spread with some tweaks to your posing, but a fine pair of wings either way.
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Been told to leave deadlifting out for a while, so I'm going to concentrate on building my lats up.

Just wondered what people thought the best exercises for this are?

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