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Old 14-02-2008, 10:18 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Re: Feeling Depressed....Squats

180lb squats not a bad thing in my opinion,like you ive used leg press because of old leg and back injuries,ie pins and plates in one leg 3 broken vertabrae in the back ,so i use smith machine too.and i can really feel you on what your sayin as im quite proud of my 350lb legg presses @5x5.try not to get too dismayed bro as im told it'll come if you keep perseveering.
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My squat is just about the same as my dead and only about 20kg more than my bench - yet in the press I can use waaaaaaaaaaay more. I've just put it down to it being an unfamiliar exercise and as my technique improves, so will the load on the bar.
Mainly it`s because they are similar to a block and tackle system (with usually two pulleys) providing mecjhanical advantage to the lifter. Same goes for many other machines in the gym using pulleys. On the other hand, free weights tell you exactly how much you can lift.
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Old 14-02-2008, 08:33 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Also surely you should hold your breath as you squat up and down to keep everything tight?
Perhaps if you want to pass out Breathe out on the way up.
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Perhaps if you want to pass out Breathe out on the way up.

Can you not hold your breath for one rep??
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Old 14-02-2008, 08:55 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Re: Feeling Depressed....Squats

You could, but I find that that just makes me even more short of breath.
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Isn't holding your breath and pushing out the belly/abs just like having a belt?
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Old 14-02-2008, 09:04 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Re: Feeling Depressed....Squats

Pass. I only use a belt to hold up my trousers...
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Re: Feeling Depressed....Squats

if i hold me breath at all during squating, when i stop i get really light headed i came close to passing out once when i reached my limit.
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Old 17-04-2008, 12:14 PM   #24 (permalink)
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My squat is just about the same as my dead and only about 20kg more than my bench - yet in the press I can use waaaaaaaaaaay more. I've just put it down to it being an unfamiliar exercise and as my technique improves, so will the load on the bar.
ill second that!

my squats are pants, but then again totally new to me, compared to my press etc they seem pretty poor

i as many others have done, neglected my legs, but i mean it all comes down to one thing, train them more

may do squats twice a week now as mentioned earlier,
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if i hold me breath at all during squating, when i stop i get really light headed i came close to passing out once when i reached my limit.
breath in when you bend your legs and out when you push up, nice big deep breaths should be the same for all workouts

also count your reps in your head
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Isn't holding your breath and pushing out the belly/abs just like having a belt?
Robbie - try doing that with double your body weight...

I'm sure you'll get used to having your eyes pop out from holding your breath after a while....
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Re: Feeling Depressed....Squats

squating is an brilliant exercise but it has to be learnt. technique takes longer to perfect than say bench press, so dont worry bout the weight your using instead get the technique right. How long do you warm up for? A clicking in a joint normally sugests air in the synovial fluid which is what lubricates the joint, make sure your fully warmed up and joints are mobalised before starting. on a side note i found the best way to increase my squat was to do alternating heavy and light weeks. on a heavy week (once warmed up) reps are around the 4-8 range, and on the light weeks reps are around 15-20, obviously adjust the weight accordingly.
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Re: Feeling Depressed....Squats

soon as i get over 100kg i use a belt. Mrdaveyk my breathing is sorted now, even with my breathing sorted i still get light headed. i'm use to it now tho
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As we are on the subject of squats anyone know where i can get good quality straps for my kness ? sorry to invaded the thread
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Hey Guys,

I can say I've been training more effectively the past year, however, I never found myself doing squats as much as what I should have been doing. I tended to use the leg press, and I admit it, I didn't train legs nowhere near as much as what I should.

However, the past month has seen me totally sort my diet out for a bulk, and I have started to incorporate leg days, including squats.

The thing is, and I know it shouldn't be like this, I can bench more and deadlift more than I can squat, and it's doing my head in!

I have been using the smith machine to do my squats and not the squat rack, as when I squat, I sometimes feel a "clicking" on the outer part of my left knee. This occurs when i'm driving upwards and pushing.

At the moment, i'm only squatting 90KG.

Are there any tips you guys can give me, or do I jyst have to be persistant and maybe do squats two times a week?

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That clicking sound you hear in the left knee when doing the rack and not when you're doing the Smith Machine, could well be attributed to bad form. Your knees should be behind the toes as you squat. Always. Check yourself out the next time you squat. This is one mistake a lot of people make. It is anatomically incorrect to squat with your knees ahead of your toes. It may feel more comfortable, but it isn't the correct way to do it. In fact, when you squat correctly, you can't lift as much... which means you're getting more into the squat!
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