Deadlift Question - UK-Muscle Body Building Community

Frog · 21-01-2008, 04:08 PM

Quick question on Deadlifts:

When i got to my 4th and fifth set today, my grip was giving way, i had to take tiny amounts of time to reset my grip between sorta the 3rd and 4th rep to make sure I could lift the last few reps.

Is this bad, should i just work until i can't grip it or does shifting your grip really have no effect? Is pausing detrimental/beneficial or of no affect?

Also you are meant to put the bar back to the ground befor each lift aren't you, to change muscle action types, that right?

Frog

Con · 21-01-2008, 04:12 PM

It is fine try chalking your hands and rememeber grip the bar where your arms are directly pointing down not wider than that.
Blast the weight up hold for a second lower slowly place on the ground and repeat.

chrisj22 · 21-01-2008, 04:15 PM

If I were you I'd lower the weight & concentrate on your form/grip.

Yes, lower the weight & pause for a second at the bottom then lift again.

Ollie B · 21-01-2008, 04:18 PM

chrisj22 is right. Its all about form, not how much you lift. You will benefit more this way.

Frog · 21-01-2008, 05:13 PM

My form feels pretty good, judging by the video's i've seen posted and by the explanations given, the only point of concern was just shifting my grip a little. I figure it jsut means i'm not ready to put the weight up agian as my grip wont handle anything higher.

Thanks for the advice guys

Frog

((PS. Con, nice avatar, trying to give Jenkins the Jimmies?))

TH&S · 21-01-2008, 06:44 PM

Frog - are you using a double overhand grip? Or a mixed/alternative grip?

Frog · 21-01-2008, 07:12 PM

Mixed Grip. With my left hand facing away from my body, and my Right facing towards.

The Iron · 29-01-2008, 04:17 PM

use chalk.

If grips still an issue then train holding grip. ( forget crushers, these are for training crushing grip, wont carry over well to holding grip)

Static BB hold for time or farmers walks are both good options.

The Iron · 29-01-2008, 04:18 PM

oh also forgot to add, if your going for hypertrophy and have no need to have an iron grip straps are an option.

MXD · 29-01-2008, 04:20 PM

try plate pinches.

TH&S · 29-01-2008, 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Iron

oh also forgot to add, if your going for hypertrophy and have no need to have an iron grip straps are an option.

Too many people get an@l over not using straps/gloves/etc IMHO - I don't really want the small muscles in my broken hands to stop my back development...

The Iron · 29-01-2008, 04:25 PM

exactly. Also helps you to concentrate on lifting with your back and not just focusing on holding on for dear life. Mind muscle connection etc.

Con · 29-01-2008, 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TH&S

Too many people get an@l over not using straps/gloves/etc IMHO - I don't really want the small muscles in my broken hands to stop my back development...

Nah i have to disagree i think on deadlifts no straps should be used at least for part of the work out, why miss out on all that good forearm building ext, straps change the movement and it becomes much more of a leg movement for most people.
Personally i like to be able to actually use some of my gym power in real life and it just so happens grip power is one of the most commonly used powers.

TH&S · 29-01-2008, 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Con

Nah i have to disagree i think on deadlifts no straps should be used at least for part of the work out, why miss out on all that good forearm building ext, straps change the movement and it becomes much more of a leg movement for most people.
Personally i like to be able to actually use some of my gym power in real life and it just so happens grip power is one of the most commonly used powers.

Along with xray vision and web slinging?

Gotta admit - I've never used straps, but I do use gloves sometimes.

But I got broken trashed hands so I gotta work with what I got.

Good point on the forearm strength though.

Con · 29-01-2008, 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TH&S

Along with xray vision and web slinging?

Sadly i only have the powers of superhuman grip and the abilty to pull random whores with ease.......i make do with what i got:beer1:

21-01-2008, 04:08 PM	#1 (permalink)
Frog Gym Addict Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 131	Deadlift Question Quick question on Deadlifts: When i got to my 4th and fifth set today, my grip was giving way, i had to take tiny amounts of time to reset my grip between sorta the 3rd and 4th rep to make sure I could lift the last few reps. Is this bad, should i just work until i can't grip it or does shifting your grip really have no effect? Is pausing detrimental/beneficial or of no affect? Also you are meant to put the bar back to the ground befor each lift aren't you, to change muscle action types, that right? Frog __________________ "People can change anything they want to, and that means everything to the world." - Joe Strummer ((5x5)) Squat:80kg - Deadlift: 100kg - Bench Press: 55kg - Standing Press: 30kg - Bent over Row: 50kg - Pulldowns - 50kg ((Max Lift)) Deadlift 130kg Benchpress 60kg

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Con Superman Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 2,308	Re: Deadlift Question It is fine try chalking your hands and rememeber grip the bar where your arms are directly pointing down not wider than that. Blast the weight up hold for a second lower slowly place on the ground and repeat.

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Frog Gym Addict Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 131	Re: Deadlift Question My form feels pretty good, judging by the video's i've seen posted and by the explanations given, the only point of concern was just shifting my grip a little. I figure it jsut means i'm not ready to put the weight up agian as my grip wont handle anything higher. Thanks for the advice guys Frog ((PS. Con, nice avatar, trying to give Jenkins the Jimmies?)) __________________ "People can change anything they want to, and that means everything to the world." - Joe Strummer ((5x5)) Squat:80kg - Deadlift: 100kg - Bench Press: 55kg - Standing Press: 30kg - Bent over Row: 50kg - Pulldowns - 50kg ((Max Lift)) Deadlift 130kg Benchpress 60kg

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21-01-2008, 07:12 PM	#7 (permalink)
Frog Gym Addict Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 131	Re: Deadlift Question Mixed Grip. With my left hand facing away from my body, and my Right facing towards. __________________ "People can change anything they want to, and that means everything to the world." - Joe Strummer ((5x5)) Squat:80kg - Deadlift: 100kg - Bench Press: 55kg - Standing Press: 30kg - Bent over Row: 50kg - Pulldowns - 50kg ((Max Lift)) Deadlift 130kg Benchpress 60kg

29-01-2008, 04:17 PM	#8 (permalink)
The Iron Gym Addict Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 247	Re: Deadlift Question use chalk. If grips still an issue then train holding grip. ( forget crushers, these are for training crushing grip, wont carry over well to holding grip) Static BB hold for time or farmers walks are both good options.

29-01-2008, 04:18 PM	#9 (permalink)
The Iron Gym Addict Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 247	Re: Deadlift Question oh also forgot to add, if your going for hypertrophy and have no need to have an iron grip straps are an option.

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29-01-2008, 04:25 PM	#12 (permalink)
The Iron Gym Addict Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 247	Re: Deadlift Question exactly. Also helps you to concentrate on lifting with your back and not just focusing on holding on for dear life. Mind muscle connection etc.

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