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Da Goon · 25-10-2007, 08:52 PM

How do you know if you are overtraining??

Week after week I always push myself (80-90% intensity). Is there any way of telling if the body needs more or less sets/reps/weight etc? A trainer once told me that 'you either go heavy or you don't - that simple'.

Is DOMS an indication whether that bodypart can be trained again?

I am using raw compound exercises at the moment to build as much core strength. I have put isolation exercises on hold until I get where I want to be and aid recovery.

Very confused over this one?? :confused:

Slamdog · 25-10-2007, 09:05 PM

i have read that when you can't really face the gym at all it means you are overtrained....

it could be a lot sooner than that though.... if you still have doms on a bodypart then it probably is too early to train it again....

Da Goon · 25-10-2007, 09:11 PM

I guess it's a hard one to answer with everyone being different eh.

I remember a weightlifter saying that it would be impossible for him to train 80% intensity all the time.

Just wondering whether once a month bringing the intensity down for a week and doing high rep stuff or isolation work again.

Five-O · 25-10-2007, 09:12 PM

tiredness, lethragy, lack of appetite, sometimes though it can be lazyness aswell, once your there you feel good to go, but loss of weight even when eating fine and things like that can be a good indication.

TH&S · 25-10-2007, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Slamdog

i have read that when you can't really face the gym at all it means you are overtrained....

it could be a lot sooner than that though.... if you still have doms on a bodypart then it probably is too early to train it again....

What about Dual Factor training...? Just cos you ache doesn't mean you can't train...

Slamdog · 25-10-2007, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by TH&S

What about Dual Factor training...? Just cos you ache doesn't mean you can't train...

not heard about that... i'm still a new kid compared to a lot on here... just going by what i have read..

TH&S · 25-10-2007, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Slamdog

not heard about that... i'm still a new kid compared to a lot on here... just going by what i have read..

Sorry mate wasn't having a go - just offering an option for discussion

Slamdog · 25-10-2007, 11:12 PM

no offence taken....

always open to ideas... just googling dual factor training as i type....

**Nytol** · 26-10-2007, 12:45 AM

When you stop progressing in strength, if you are not getting stronger, then you are over training, or training wrong, this is why a training diary is so important so you can track your progress, and make adjustments.

Da Goon · 26-10-2007, 07:23 AM

Excellent cheers guys. Still making really good gains with my 3 day compound training. Plus the best part is I am enjoying the challenge of lifting heavier weights the following week.

13stonetarget · 26-10-2007, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Nytol

When you stop progressing in strength, if you are not getting stronger, then you are over training, or training wrong, this is why a training diary is so important so you can track your progress, and make adjustments.

Or, possibly not eating enough?

Bulldozer · 26-10-2007, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Da Goon

Excellent cheers guys. Still making really good gains with my 3 day compound training. Plus the best part is I am enjoying the challenge of lifting heavier weights the following week.

If thats the case dont change a thing bro ;)

invisiblekid · 26-10-2007, 10:54 AM

:withstupi

If you are gaining or increasing the weight the chances of being overtrained at low. This doesn't mean to say you aren't on your way to overtraining however.

Generally, you'll "just know". You'll struggle to get out of bed, have a short fuse, sometimes dred the gym etc...It takes a while to realise sometimes, you think you're getting a cold or something like that.

Shadow · 26-10-2007, 02:41 PM

I also know if I'm overtraining if I get ill as I've pushed my body too far. This usually down to fatige, etc.

13stonetarget · 26-10-2007, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by 13stonetarget

Or, possibly not eating enough?

Who negative rep'd me for that?! :crazy:

25-10-2007, 08:52 PM	#1 (permalink)
Da Goon eating clucking chickens Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Crawley Posts: 122	Overtraining - how do you know?? How do you know if you are overtraining?? Week after week I always push myself (80-90% intensity). Is there any way of telling if the body needs more or less sets/reps/weight etc? A trainer once told me that 'you either go heavy or you don't - that simple'. Is DOMS an indication whether that bodypart can be trained again? I am using raw compound exercises at the moment to build as much core strength. I have put isolation exercises on hold until I get where I want to be and aid recovery. Very confused over this one?? :confused:

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Da Goon eating clucking chickens Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Crawley Posts: 122	Re: Overtraining - how do you know?? I guess it's a hard one to answer with everyone being different eh. I remember a weightlifter saying that it would be impossible for him to train 80% intensity all the time. Just wondering whether once a month bringing the intensity down for a week and doing high rep stuff or isolation work again.

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Nytol UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: UK Posts: 4,108	Re: Overtraining - how do you know?? When you stop progressing in strength, if you are not getting stronger, then you are over training, or training wrong, this is why a training diary is so important so you can track your progress, and make adjustments. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

26-10-2007, 07:23 AM	#10 (permalink)
Da Goon eating clucking chickens Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Crawley Posts: 122	Re: Overtraining - how do you know?? Excellent cheers guys. Still making really good gains with my 3 day compound training. Plus the best part is I am enjoying the challenge of lifting heavier weights the following week.

26-10-2007, 10:54 AM	#13 (permalink)
invisiblekid Hitman Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 1,536	Re: Overtraining - how do you know?? :withstupi If you are gaining or increasing the weight the chances of being overtrained at low. This doesn't mean to say you aren't on your way to overtraining however. Generally, you'll "just know". You'll struggle to get out of bed, have a short fuse, sometimes dred the gym etc...It takes a while to realise sometimes, you think you're getting a cold or something like that. __________________ Most bodybuilders are actually insane. Albert Einstein defined insanity as "Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results".

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Shadow Newbie Trainer Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Cardiff Posts: 83	Re: Overtraining - how do you know?? I also know if I'm overtraining if I get ill as I've pushed my body too far. This usually down to fatige, etc.

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