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Old 26-01-2007, 12:06 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Got there in the end, did'nt I?!
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Old 26-01-2007, 12:28 PM   #32 (permalink)
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how much weight do u guys normally shift on SLDL i use about 230kg on normal deads but when it comes to SLDL i normally drop right down to 100k.. am i being a slacker and takign it too easy or is this the norm?

Im the same mate... I have been higher but now realise its just asking for trouble, the pressure on the back of the knee is to much and I've been injured a couple of times.
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Old 26-01-2007, 01:00 PM   #33 (permalink)
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I love this exercise but have had lower back problems in the past so dont tend to go heavy on them, for me its all about technique and control. Slow rep cadence go till I feel the stretch and at keep the core tight at all times. In fact at the end of my working set not only are my hams, glutes and lower back tired but my abs and obliques are as well.

Mind you its not an exercise I would recomend anyone start to do without guidance or someone watching your form, seen far to many really bad techniques doing this in the gym
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Old 26-01-2007, 01:21 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Im the same mate... I have been higher but now realise its just asking for trouble, the pressure on the back of the knee is to much and I've been injured a couple of times.
I find it is much better to keep a slight bend in the knee, the knee joint does not move, but it is not locked out straight.
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Old 26-01-2007, 01:50 PM   #35 (permalink)
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I find it is much better to keep a slight bend in the knee, the knee joint does not move, but it is not locked out straight.
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Old 26-01-2007, 04:11 PM   #36 (permalink)
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Welly does go heavy, you were using as much as I do last time! You seem to have much more strength than most guys training naturally.

Your PT must be an absolute genius.....................:hail:

See you tomorrow, and it's legs as well...
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Old 26-01-2007, 04:18 PM   #37 (permalink)
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Update........

Day after my hams hurt only where the cramps were.
My training partner (the one that wanted to go heavier) came to my area at work and said his hamstrings were destroyed....haaaa haaaa, thats funny as he wanted me to go heavier and do another set.

Today my hamstrings are pretty beat up and the whole hamstring is sore now.

I really feel this is my weak link and my legs feel fuller today and actually better.
I suspect my quad's were overpowering my hamstrings and tossing out the alignment of my knees to some degree.
Funny thing, my knees feel great today.

I can honestly say I will continue doing these and I am actually expecting my legs to explode from them.

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Old 26-01-2007, 04:31 PM   #38 (permalink)
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I'll see that 'hee hee' & raise you a 'told you so'
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Hackskii,

Don't forget to mix up with Hyperextensions as Ninepack mentioned as well. Do these nice and slow and hold a weight if necessary. Much safer to go to failure on hypers than SLDL.

And Nine Pack my PT is pretty good (better say that otherwise ill be killed in my leg session)
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I suspect my quad's were overpowering my hamstrings and tossing out the alignment of my knees to some degree.
Funny thing, my knees feel great today.

Its never too late to learn somthing new.
Charles Poliquin used to write quite a bit about hamstring/quad strength ratio, and the risk of knee injury.
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Charles Poliquin used to write quite a bit about hamstring/quad strength ratio, and the risk of knee injury.
Man, I would like to read some of that.
Muscle ballance is so important.

Id be curious to see what he suggests on the ratio.
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I feel dirty and unclean suggesting this (), but; he used to write for T nation, and I imagine a lot of his old articles will be archived over there.
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Don't forget to mix up with Hyperextensions as Ninepack mentioned as well. Do these nice and slow and hold a weight if necessary. Much safer to go to failure on hypers than SLDL.

And Nine Pack my PT is pretty good (better say that otherwise ill be killed in my leg session)
Pretty good??? Oh deary, deary me. Tomorrows leg session is going to be so much fun........................for me.:crazy:
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Bring it on (I just know I am going to regret this)
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Re: Stiff Leg Deadlifts, ouch.
After reading this thread, I think I might be missing the point of these exercises somewhat, as I am aiming for 180kg for 3-5 reps. Should I drop the weight & aim for higher reps?

If I do this, what about progression, should I still try & add 2.5kg as often as possible, or just cycle within a higher & lower boundary?

On a different note, I find these hit my rear delts nicely, &, to a lesser degree, lats.

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