shoulder problem on straight arm pullover - UK-Muscle Body Building Community

dynamatiz · 01-02-2006, 08:00 PM

a havent posted 4 a while, due to a lot of thinks thts been goin on since the new year had kind of a ****ty start

anyhow a was at the gym today, and i thought i would try out a new technique( straight arm pullover)

i started out with a really lightweight (about 6 kg barbell), when lowering the weight down so it was parralel with my body, my left arm popped out of joint at the shoulder, and caused me to leave them alone

ive always had a funny joint there anyhow, thru an accident when a was a kid, dislocating it, but never seem to give me trouble since then

anyhow the question a was asking, is ther a better or safer alternative

sorry a really didnt know which topic to put this under cos its a mix of everything :confused:
any help would be appreciated

cheers guys

**Aftershock** · 01-02-2006, 10:33 PM

Damn... Hows your shoulder now mate? Did it actually dislocate again today?

Obviously if the pullover is causing that your gona have to leave them well alone... Does the shoulder give you any problems on other exercises?

It would help a lot if we could see what you current routine look like...

dynamatiz · 01-02-2006, 10:52 PM

yeah mate a did, it was only a matter of seconds like, but a cud feel the top of my arm thru the skin, where it was suppose to be under my clavicle, it popped bk in with a little help, its happened b4 but this time it was out a lot further, its ok now dont thinks av tore any muscle but its sore when raising above my head, and when a put me arm across my body( across chest as if i were stretchin it feels like it ll go again :(

my routine has changed thru work again(working 4 days on 4 days off)

day 1
chest and bi
dumbell press
incline barbell
heavy straight barbell curl
incline seated dumbell curl alternating
calf raises

day2
back and tri
lat pl down or w.grip pullups
bent over row
closegrip press
oh extensions on cable crossover
dips to finish me lol

day3(today lol) legs n abs
deadlift
squats
leg ext.
all sorts of crunches
and i tried out a oh pullovers today because i had time to kill, but bad idea lol

day 4 shoulders traps
miltary press wit oly bar
lateral raises
back flyes ( sorry couldnt remember the name lol)
barbell shrug on smith
2 sets of dumbell shrugs

sorry tht was a quick run down of what i do.
normally if av got a bit more time to meself all work on form or try something new

it doesnt gave me problems on any other exercise, really tht i can think of not even on oh extensions

**Aftershock** · 03-02-2006, 03:03 PM

Ok well I think its pretty obvious that you are doing to much tbh mate

We spoke in a PM re an atlernative for the pullovers ie stiff arm pulldowns on the lat machine.

but I would have a look at Bigs "how to grow" article if i was you..

http://www.uk-muscle.co.uk/general-articles/8136-how-grow.html

**hackskii** · 03-02-2006, 04:19 PM

Dumbell would work nicely, it rotates the shoulders in and will cause less injury.

My Chiro has me doing something on the pulldown maching.
Stand in front of it, use a wide grip, keep elbos strait and pull the weight down in front of you to your hip area.

Use very light weight to work the secondary muscles using heavy weight will make the primary muscles overtake the secondary muscles and you wont to target the secondary ones not primary ones.
10-20 reps a couple of times a week, that is it.

Some rotator work would not be a bad idea either.

01-02-2006, 08:00 PM	#1 (permalink)
dynamatiz work in progress Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: north of england but mama doesnt know where a came from.summit about a pack of wolves Posts: 316	shoulder problem on straight arm pullover a havent posted 4 a while, due to a lot of thinks thts been goin on since the new year had kind of a ***ty start anyhow a was at the gym today, and i thought i would try out a new technique( straight arm pullover) i started out with a really lightweight (about 6 kg barbell), when lowering the weight down so it was parralel with my body, my left arm popped out of joint at the shoulder, and caused me to leave them alone ive always had a funny joint there anyhow, thru an accident when a was a kid, dislocating it, but never seem to give me trouble since then anyhow the question a was asking, is ther a better or safer alternative sorry a really didnt know which topic to put this under cos its a mix of everything :confused: any help would be appreciated cheers guys Last edited by dynamatiz; 01-02-2006 at 09:12 PM.*

01-02-2006, 10:33 PM	#2 (permalink)
Aftershock UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 4,020	Damn... Hows your shoulder now mate? Did it actually dislocate again today? Obviously if the pullover is causing that your gona have to leave them well alone... Does the shoulder give you any problems on other exercises? It would help a lot if we could see what you current routine look like... __________________ "You are what you eat you can't possibly be anything else" or put another way "eat sht look like sht!!" Aftershock

01-02-2006, 10:52 PM	#3 (permalink)
dynamatiz work in progress Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: north of england but mama doesnt know where a came from.summit about a pack of wolves Posts: 316	yeah mate a did, it was only a matter of seconds like, but a cud feel the top of my arm thru the skin, where it was suppose to be under my clavicle, it popped bk in with a little help, its happened b4 but this time it was out a lot further, its ok now dont thinks av tore any muscle but its sore when raising above my head, and when a put me arm across my body( across chest as if i were stretchin it feels like it ll go again :( my routine has changed thru work again(working 4 days on 4 days off) day 1 chest and bi dumbell press incline barbell heavy straight barbell curl incline seated dumbell curl alternating calf raises day2 back and tri lat pl down or w.grip pullups bent over row closegrip press oh extensions on cable crossover dips to finish me lol day3(today lol) legs n abs deadlift squats leg ext. all sorts of crunches and i tried out a oh pullovers today because i had time to kill, but bad idea lol day 4 shoulders traps miltary press wit oly bar lateral raises back flyes ( sorry couldnt remember the name lol) barbell shrug on smith 2 sets of dumbell shrugs sorry tht was a quick run down of what i do. normally if av got a bit more time to meself all work on form or try something new it doesnt gave me problems on any other exercise, really tht i can think of not even on oh extensions Last edited by dynamatiz; 01-02-2006 at 10:57 PM.

03-02-2006, 03:03 PM	#4 (permalink)
Aftershock UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 4,020	Ok well I think its pretty obvious that you are doing to much tbh mate We spoke in a PM re an atlernative for the pullovers ie stiff arm pulldowns on the lat machine. but I would have a look at Bigs "how to grow" article if i was you.. http://www.uk-muscle.co.uk/general-articles/8136-how-grow.html __________________ "You are what you eat you can't possibly be anything else" or put another way "eat sht look like sht!!" Aftershock

03-02-2006, 04:19 PM	#5 (permalink)
hackskii UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sunny Southern California U.S.A. Posts: 23,635	Dumbell would work nicely, it rotates the shoulders in and will cause less injury. My Chiro has me doing something on the pulldown maching. Stand in front of it, use a wide grip, keep elbos strait and pull the weight down in front of you to your hip area. Use very light weight to work the secondary muscles using heavy weight will make the primary muscles overtake the secondary muscles and you wont to target the secondary ones not primary ones. 10-20 reps a couple of times a week, that is it. Some rotator work would not be a bad idea either. __________________ "Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away." - George Carlin Scott To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.