Stuck On Bench Press ? - Page 3 - UK-Muscle Body Building Community

turbo · 22-06-2004, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Greyphantom

You could also try to improve tri strength as this helps too...

My tri`s are pretty strong. I spent 14 years working out my chest & arms and ignored shoulders/back etc... so, now im playing catchup a lot with my other muscles!!!

Killerkeane · 22-06-2004, 10:53 PM

i love working chest and triceps, definetly my favourite day. I actually cannot wait to get down the gym to do chest/triceps. I like all exercises though except legs, sometimes these are okay but the squats hurt, really hurt.

winger · 23-06-2004, 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Killerkeane

i have heard forearms, help with strench on benching enormously, more weight behind the barbell to push up with.

What is strench? Oh payback is sweet.

Stretch and strength? :confused:
I still love ya.

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Originally Posted by turbo

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 2.5kg increase every week!!!! Christ... My bench has only increased by about 10kg I reckon over the last year. Ive been stuck at the same weight for about 6 months now, and now im on pct, my strength/energy is dropping so last week i had to drop the bench by about 10kg just to get some reps out.

Once before I managed to increase my bench by trying a few 1RM`s for a session or so. That psychologically blew my plateau wide appart and i managed to increase things a bit. I might have to try the same. What i have been doing though, as i have a very strong chest, but weak shoulders, is trying to improve my shoulder strength as I reckon that could be a limiting factor for me, but over the past 4 months ive not really noticed any improvement on the bench performance, even though my shoulders are growing nicely.

Im also probably going to drop the barbell bench and do more dumbell benching for a while to see if that helps improve matters, although I can only get 100lb on each of my dumbells.

Post cycle you need to train heavy still, but dont do as many sets. Your body cant restore as fast. :(

**hackskii** · 23-06-2004, 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by turbo

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 2.5kg increase every week!!!! Christ... My bench has only increased by about 10kg I reckon over the last year. Ive been stuck at the same weight for about 6 months now, and now im on pct, my strength/energy is dropping so last week i had to drop the bench by about 10kg just to get some reps out.

Once before I managed to increase my bench by trying a few 1RM`s for a session or so. That psychologically blew my plateau wide appart and i managed to increase things a bit. I might have to try the same. What i have been doing though, as i have a very strong chest, but weak shoulders, is trying to improve my shoulder strength as I reckon that could be a limiting factor for me, but over the past 4 months ive not really noticed any improvement on the bench performance, even though my shoulders are growing nicely.

Im also probably going to drop the barbell bench and do more dumbell benching for a while to see if that helps improve matters, although I can only get 100lb on each of my dumbells.

Hey bro, I wont flame you like you flame me!

I would not drop the barbell bench if this is what you want to increase.
If your shoulders are being fetigued while benching then you are either using a grip that is too wide or going too high on the chest.

First, try some pauses as this will get the bar speed up, and also spark growth from the bottom of the lift.

Second, dont burnout on your way up the pyramid. There is a fine line from being warmed up and being ready for a lift to failure on the set that counts.

Third, think not of pushing the weight up but pushing the weight away from you, like your back is going through the bench itself, this will help incourperate diffrent muscles than the ones you are currently using.

Fourth, bar speed. If you can get it off of your chest then you will get the lift, also stick out your chest to shorten the lift.

Fifth, do some dips as this lift has been known to get the bench up.

lastly, do bench only once a week and dont do too many sets. remember you are post cycle and you can overtrain easily here, putting too much into this will only hinder your gains and put you back some.

I like to use tribex and creatine post cycle along with some other stuff. If you
PM me I can give you a list of some good stuff to use post cycle that is along the natural rout.

turbo · 23-06-2004, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by hackskii

Hey bro, I wont flame you like you flame me!

I would not drop the barbell bench if this is what you want to increase.
If your shoulders are being fetigued while benching then you are either using a grip that is too wide or going too high on the chest.

First, try some pauses as this will get the bar speed up, and also spark growth from the bottom of the lift.

Second, dont burnout on your way up the pyramid. There is a fine line from being warmed up and being ready for a lift to failure on the set that counts.

Third, think not of pushing the weight up but pushing the weight away from you, like your back is going through the bench itself, this will help incourperate diffrent muscles than the ones you are currently using.

Fourth, bar speed. If you can get it off of your chest then you will get the lift, also stick out your chest to shorten the lift.

Fifth, do some dips as this lift has been known to get the bench up.

lastly, do bench only once a week and dont do too many sets. remember you are post cycle and you can overtrain easily here, putting too much into this will only hinder your gains and put you back some.

I like to use tribex and creatine post cycle along with some other stuff. If you
PM me I can give you a list of some good stuff to use post cycle that is along the natural rout.

Several Points...

My shoulders are not being worn out on the benchpress. I very often do a few sets of shoulder presses on my chest day and have no problems with the shoulders being worn out. I know my shoulders are not as strong as they should be, and I think thats why my bench hasnt progressed as much.

I dont do pyramid sets. I warm up, then do a 5x5 routine, so im using the same weight for each set.

I do each set with the same intensity, do full reps and my form is spot on. After all, ive been bench pressing for 15 years or more now, have a bigger bench than most of my mates and its my favourite lift.

Point 4.. lol.. well, it all depends on what technique you want to do. If you are trying to lift too much weight, then sure, arching your back, thrusting your chest out will all mean that you dont have to lower that bar as far and so can probably shift more weight. But, if you want to do strict form, then you should use a bit less weight and the correct technique.

Lastly, not wishing to flame, you forget that im not a newbie, and if you`d read some of my posts, you`d know that I advocate only hitting each muscle group once a week anyway and that I know as much (if not more) about PCT than you! Im pretty sure that I even recommended to you at one stage that you run natural stuff through PCT, like tribulus / creatine / zma etc...

Killerkeane · 23-06-2004, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by winger

What is strench? Oh payback is sweet.

Stretch and strength? :confused:
I still love ya.

Post cycle you need to train heavy still, but dont do as many sets. Your body cant restore as fast. :(

Ah man, WAR ON NOW. Ill get the last laugh, i dont know how but somehow i will......

**hackskii** · 23-06-2004, 02:44 PM

Hey Turbo, maybe its time for a change!
You gained 10 Kgs on the bench last year during a cycle to lose it post cycle?
I wouldnt do 5X5 training post cycle either.

Here is a good natural product that I have taken and has helped tons post cycle. Check it out you might be surprised.
But beings that you know more than me you for sure already have tried it.
I will give you the link below.
http://proteinfactory.com/store/prod...c0902b5cc07e55

Catabolism is common post cycle and L-Glutamine is good for anti-catabolism.
So is about 6 grams of Vitamin C taken throughout the day too.
OKG is good for anti-catabolism and is used for surgery patients in hospitals for recovery.
MACA is good for sex drive post cycle and so is Avena Setiva is good too.

But, I know you know all that as it see it in all of your posts (the ones without the flames in them) but I wanted to post for the other guys too cuz I know you already know it all. :confused:

turbo · 23-06-2004, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by hackskii

Hey Turbo, maybe its time for a change!
You gained 10 Kgs on the bench last year during a cycle to lose it post cycle?
I wouldnt do 5X5 training post cycle either.

Here is a good natural product that I have taken and has helped tons post cycle. Check it out you might be surprised.
But beings that you know more than me you for sure already have tried it.
I will give you the link below.
http://proteinfactory.com/store/prod...c0902b5cc07e55

Catabolism is common post cycle and L-Glutamine is good for anti-catabolism.
So is about 6 grams of Vitamin C taken throughout the day too.
OKG is good for anti-catabolism and is used for surgery patients in hospitals for recovery.
MACA is good for sex drive post cycle and so is Avena Setiva is good too.

But, I know you know all that as it see it in all of your posts (the ones without the flames in them) but I wanted to post for the other guys too cuz I know you already know it all. :confused:

All good stuff for people who have problems with PCT to bare in mind, but i dont have any problems with PCT. My strength/energy has dropped a bit compared to what they were when i was on cycle, but thats perfectly normal and not a problem. Im still full of energy through the normal work day, and sex drive is fine.

I havent lost 10kg on the bench yet. Its still early days so i`ll see how I get on next time I hit the chest. Id expect to loose a bit though from my on cycle peak, especially as ive lost quite a lot of bodyweight (fat).

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Killerkeane The Geezer Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Somerset although im not proud lol. Posts: 2,978	i love working chest and triceps, definetly my favourite day. I actually cannot wait to get down the gym to do chest/triceps. I like all exercises though except legs, sometimes these are okay but the squats hurt, really hurt. __________________ Fortes Fortuna Paratus Mens-Fortune favours the prepared mind.:amen:

23-06-2004, 02:44 PM	#37 (permalink)
hackskii UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sunny Southern California U.S.A. Posts: 23,185	Hey Turbo, maybe its time for a change! You gained 10 Kgs on the bench last year during a cycle to lose it post cycle? I wouldnt do 5X5 training post cycle either. Here is a good natural product that I have taken and has helped tons post cycle. Check it out you might be surprised. But beings that you know more than me you for sure already have tried it. I will give you the link below. http://proteinfactory.com/store/prod...c0902b5cc07e55 Catabolism is common post cycle and L-Glutamine is good for anti-catabolism. So is about 6 grams of Vitamin C taken throughout the day too. OKG is good for anti-catabolism and is used for surgery patients in hospitals for recovery. MACA is good for sex drive post cycle and so is Avena Setiva is good too. But, I know you know all that as it see it in all of your posts (the ones without the flames in them) but I wanted to post for the other guys too cuz I know you already know it all. :confused: __________________ "Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away." - George Carlin Scott To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Last edited by hackskii; 23-06-2004 at 02:55 PM.