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Old 17-06-2004, 10:29 AM   #16 (permalink)
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it makes me laugh how all these people who lift 400lbs bench, are doing it by 50% momentum, and when they get off they look around the gym to see who was watching, man that cracks me up.
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Hell most of these guys dont even use momentum but the "short rep" method... you know the one... where the bar lowers a half inch then back up a few times... damn wish I could bench 300lbs let alone 400.... still here I come 300... but youre not wrong Killer... controlled motion is the key dont let the weight or momentum take over...
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Grey, you cant do 300?
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it makes me laugh how all these people who lift 400lbs bench, are doing it by 50% momentum, and when they get off they look around the gym to see who was watching, man that cracks me up.
Hell I cant even do 400 with help. My favorite is the guy that walks around the leg press making noise with about 20 plates on the leg press and only goes down about 2 inches. Loooosssseeeeerrrrr
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Hell I cant even do 400 with help. My favorite is the guy that walks around the leg press making noise with about 20 plates on the leg press and only goes down about 2 inches. Loooosssseeeeerrrrr
lmao, classic one that is
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Grey, you cant do 300?

Nope (270ish is about my best for reps, never tried a 1rm though) and not having a regular training partner doesnt help... plus I have orangutan arms... great reach but sucks for chins and bench...
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Nope (270ish is about my best for reps, never tried a 1rm though) and not having a regular training partner doesnt help... plus I have orangutan arms... great reach but sucks for chins and bench...
yeah, i have noticed people who bench the most have really strong powerful arms that are also very short, less weight to life that way.
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Nope (270ish is about my best for reps, never tried a 1rm though) and not having a regular training partner doesnt help... plus I have orangutan arms... great reach but sucks for chins and bench...
yeah, i have noticed people who bench the most have really strong powerful arms that are also very short, less weight to lift that way.
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I have long arms too, good for boxing but seriously unfortunate for big benching!

there is far less mechanical strain on short arms in my experience

my bench is pathetic (80kg) in comparison to deadlifts/squats for example
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yeah, that does'nt really mean you are weak in that department tho Sam, i have long arms too, but i find my bench increases every week by 2.5kg.
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Yeah Killer... as long as I progress then I am happy... I dont lift as heavy as I used too... (but getting there) but as long as the progress comes in both the lifts and physique I am happy... rome wasnt built in a day... (but it sure burnt in a night...)
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Yeah Killer... as long as I progress then I am happy... I dont lift as heavy as I used too... (but getting there) but as long as the progress comes in both the lifts and physique I am happy... rome wasnt built in a day... (but it sure burnt in a night...)
that's funny Phantom
Yeah, this is all i am really bothered about, as long as i make consitent gains month in month out, i know i am making steady progress. Sometimes this progress comes to a dead halt, and you haev to do something durastic to change it, but slow and steady wins the race (on the exception of Gear).
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yeah, that does'nt really mean you are weak in that department tho Sam, i have long arms too, but i find my bench increases every week by 2.5kg.
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 2.5kg increase every week!!!! Christ... My bench has only increased by about 10kg I reckon over the last year. Ive been stuck at the same weight for about 6 months now, and now im on pct, my strength/energy is dropping so last week i had to drop the bench by about 10kg just to get some reps out.

Once before I managed to increase my bench by trying a few 1RM`s for a session or so. That psychologically blew my plateau wide appart and i managed to increase things a bit. I might have to try the same. What i have been doing though, as i have a very strong chest, but weak shoulders, is trying to improve my shoulder strength as I reckon that could be a limiting factor for me, but over the past 4 months ive not really noticed any improvement on the bench performance, even though my shoulders are growing nicely.

Im also probably going to drop the barbell bench and do more dumbell benching for a while to see if that helps improve matters, although I can only get 100lb on each of my dumbells.
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You could also try to improve tri strength as this helps too...
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i have heard forearms, help with strench on benching enormously, more weight behind the barbell to push up with.
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