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Old 29-07-2005, 07:27 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Oats a big problem

i hate eating oatmeal ... especially when i have to eat 300g of oats a day. Guyz plz help me out . If i cook 300g oats they swell up and bcome 500g oats now whose nutrition facts would b counted ..before cooking or after it.....and the next thing is...is there any easy way to get those f**** oats get down to stomach.
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Old 29-07-2005, 07:45 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Blend them raw in a protein shake. You won't even know they're there.
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agreed wiht big..... blend them first so they are basically a powder then add the rest of the contents of the shake
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transform into a horse?
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transform into a horse?
ROTF what?lol
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to eat the oats u must become one with the horse, think like a horse, pretend to gallop and prance like the mighty horse, now, with your back legs errect, maine blowing in the wind empty the oats into a troth and dunk your head in there
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Im doing what Ronnie Colman does every single morning of his life.

300g (well he had like a kilo!) of oats cooked up with a slice of cheese.

12 - 18 egg whites, fried up with "1 Cal Spray Olive Oil"

Mixed all together in a bowl.. Beauty!
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to eat the oats u must become one with the horse, think like a horse, pretend to gallop and prance like the mighty horse, now, with your back legs errect, maine blowing in the wind empty the oats into a troth and dunk your head in there

I fully agree with your theory Carnivore, to become one with an animal to achieve ones goal is truly a skill that all men should master, I frequently turn into a pidgeon and fly home when my legs are too tired to walk. Also with the homing skills that i possess as this creature it is impossible for me to get lost.
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Old 29-07-2005, 11:42 AM   #9 (permalink)
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to eat the oats u must become one with the horse, think like a horse, pretend to gallop and prance like the mighty horse, now, with your back legs errect, maine blowing in the wind empty the oats into a troth and dunk your head in there
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is there really any need to eat 300g of Oats for breakfast thats 240g of Carbs just in your breakfast alone, how many grams of carbs a day do you lot eat?
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Im doing what Ronnie Colman does every single morning of his life.

300g (well he had like a kilo!) of oats cooked up with a slice of cheese.

12 - 18 egg whites, fried up with "1 Cal Spray Olive Oil"

Mixed all together in a bowl.. Beauty!
Im starting this next week, looks minging but i need to increase my appetite and calory intake, hope i dont barf
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Im starting this next week, looks minging but i need to increase my appetite and calory intake, hope i dont barf
what ? in the amounts Paul mentioned ? 18 egg whites ? exactly how big are you bigdav?

i hope ya dont barf either mate you.d never flush it away man !
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I thought this was good from a E-book by By Vince Gironda

By Vince Gironda

Q: Thanks so much for your letter concerning protein intake and
the use of fertilized eggs.
Would you please tell me if the ingredient which causes the
anabolic effect is to be found in the white or the yellow of the egg
or must the entire egg be consumed in order to achieve the desired
results?
Also, how long do you recommend that an individual stay on the
fertilized egg diet?
A: The ingredient that causes the anabolic effect in eggs is the fat
(cholesterol). The yolk as you probably know, is 50 % fat! I,
however, would not advise the exclusion of the white because
science can only test for that which they are aware, or already
know.
This does not mean that justifies the removal of something that is
not understood. Science plays it safe; science is not an
experimentor. The real scientist is the guy who is trying to discover
something that was there all the time (nature), and takes the first
step (unscientific) and discovers nature’s secrets.
Actually, there is nothing new at all. The facts were always there. I
do not subscribe to man’s laws (science). My information comes
from a different source. All I have to tell you is that I am turning
out men like Don Peters, who at 43 years of age looks better now
than he ever did when he was 20 years younger and taking steroids.
Just put my findings to use and see for yourself.
I will put my reputation on the line to prove that steroids are not
any better or as good as four dozen fertile eggs, 100 liver tabs, and
100 amino acid tablets per day.

Another clip:
Q: I am 15 years old and I have been bodybuilding for about 1 ½
years. I weigh 175. You should receive my order for your arm
course very soon in the future. I have a question. I hope you will
please answer. I saw an add about Formulas B3 and B7. It said in
one of the testimonials that it is a substitute for anabolic steroids
but it is natural. Do you know if this stuff works? Does it hurt your
body in any way? I don’t ever want to use anything that would
harm my body in any way.
A: Single vitamins (Mono Substances) cannot work, they need
catalysts to be utilized. If you’re interested in producing male
hormones in your body, do as the fellows in my gym are doing. 1-3
dozen raw fertile eggs mixed in ½ & ½ cream and milk beaten, and
taken every 3 hours will produce an anabolic effect by putting you
in a positive nitrogen balance. It’s as easy as that. The effect is
really miraculous.

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Q: I certainly enjoy reading your articles. Your opinions carry a lot
of weight due to your years of experience. However, two articles
which appeared in Iron Man magazine appear to be contradictory:
1. Iron Man, January, 1979, Volume 38 No. 2: “I have seen
students gain one inch on arms in 3 days, eating one dozen eggs
and one pound of beef daily.”
2. Iron Man, September, 1978, Volume 37 No. 6: “I advocate a
relatively “low” protein intake, about 65 grams per day. The body
can’t digest more than 20 grams per meal.”
One dozen eggs and a pound of beef would amount to
approximately 180 grams of protein a day, far in excess of what
you recommend in the September, 1978 article.
Would you please explain?
A: Sorry about the confusion.
My feeling about body builders seriously training for maximum
muscle size is simple; 4 fertile eggs every three hours is a necessity
to achieve positive nitrogen balance. This is the bottom line in
body building nutrition. It’s the easiest way to achieve the anabolic
state.
Men over 40, like Don Peters and Don Howorth look better now
than they did at age 30 or under. Don Peters is at present up to 4
dozen a day, and looks unbelievable. I personally achieved the best
condition of my life on 65 grams of protein a day (eggs, meat and
butter).
You are opening a Pandora’s Box by expecting a simple answer to
your questions. If you ever get to California perhaps I could go into
detail and cover every aspect of this with you.
To summarize this, I go on record by stating that you would be far
better off with 65 grams of protein, than 300.
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Another cut from his book on Eggs.

EGGS
Q: I must have read it a hundred times but I still do not understand
your position on the eating of eggs Mr. Gironda. Please answer
these three questions. 1. How many eggs do you eat a day? 2. How
many eggs would you recommend a person with a high cholesterol
count to eat daily? 3. How many eggs should person who is allergic
to eggs eat?
A: The answers to your questions are as follows: 1. I personally eat
no eggs at all. The reason for this is that I am not currently trying
to add muscle size. 2. A person suffering from high cholesterol
should keep his fat low. Only eat eggs occasionally as they are high
in fat. 3. I should have thought the answer to this question is
obvious. Of course a person allergic to eggs, should not eat them!
Now, as to my stand with regard to eggs, that so many seem to find
amusing or absurd. I recommend the egg as an excellent source of
nutrition for the bodybuilder because it is recognized by nutritional
scientists as being the highest quality protein known to human
kind. You probably hear the word “biological” used in terms of
nutrition when referring to protein. A biological percentage is not
the percentage of protein in a food, it is a term that refers to the
structure of protein, indicating how near it is to human tissue. For
example, according to British expert Bernard Beverley human
tissue is 100 percent biological. Since we can’t go around eating
each other, we have to settle for second best. That is…eggs!! They
are 95 percent biological in terms of amino acid structure. They are
not 95 percent protein. In actual fact, an egg is only about 6 percent
protein, but that protein is 95 percent usable in building human
muscle tissue. Next in line to eggs comes milk, organ meats, liver,
kidneys, heart – then red meats such as steak, lamb and finally
poultry and fish. Protein derived from the soya bean for example, is
not high on the list. It’s only about 22 percent biological, so you
need a large amount of the higher quality protein foods to supply
the essential amino acid balance.
Rather than take steroids I advise bodybuilders in normal robust
health to take up to three dozen eggs daily, to push their muscles to
a new plateau. I do not suggest that they do this for the rest of their
lives. Nutrition is to be used to achieve a specific goal. You want
size, then go for it with eggs. There is nothing better, so get
crackin’. After 6-8 weeks or so you can drop down your egg intake
to just one or two a day.
Try another diet such as red meat and fresh vegetables…or a diet
high in milk products or fish. There are scores of regimens to
follow, and each will help you achieve a specific goal.
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To answer the original question now is this.
1/2 cup of uncooked oats is 27 grams of carbs.
After cooking it swells up alot to probably almost double that or about a cup.
Dont buy instant oats as this is actually higher in the GI and actually not recomended. Buy the 5 minute oats these are fine and the best.
Dont get the pre-packaged flavored ones either they are not as good.

Add a protein to that like eggs (see above) or whey protein, either or tast good and are good for you.
If you are cooking the oats add butter to that for some fat.
Don't worry about the cholesterol from the eggs and butter they are just fine and dont worry about that as this is healthy.

If you feel that a half a cup of oats are not enough then have a whole cup and that would be 54 grams of carbs or 216 calories dirrived from carbohydrates. Dont forget to add a protein to that like 2 scoops of whey and some butter. That would be perfect.
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