God

At the moment I have a healthy living wrap with chicken, coleslaw and a bit of nandos sauce for one meal and a couple of hours later a wholemeal pitta with chicken and mayo.

Please share your opinion on whether you think breads are ok as a regular part of your diet assuming you're not cutting.

I am thinking that wholemeal or breads with seeds in are a lot better than white bread however it's still quite a processed food and really doesn't seem to fill me up anywhere near as long as rice/pasta.

Cheers.

sizar

is not the best source .. my carb sources are Rice whole meal and pure white basmati , oat meal bit of milk not alot i think that's it .. every now and again an apple.

pastanchicken

I often do the same mate, in fact later on I'm having tuna on multi seed bread.

There are probably better carb sources out there, and people will probably say that in this thread.

For me it's a matter of convinience, and this is a compromise that I make. Having said that, I'm not a competing bodybuilder, those that are may have a different opinion

God

It is so much more convenient at work. I can eat a pitta or wrap in 2 mins. To eat the same amount of rice it would take more like 20 as I really struggle getting it down. However saying that if rice is a lot better then I might be able to find a way of incorporating it. I have oats in 3 shakes through the day, a bit of fruit and also sweet potato for dinner so it's not like bread is my only carb source.

sizar

it's ok to have bread for one meal don't hurt but i find it doesn't kill my hunger it's not that satisfiying but it's nice sometimes rice rice does get boring but what can you say. as long as your happy with your result then way forward mate. some people don't matter what they eat is the same won't make a difference to thier appereance. but hey it's easier then why not.

Heineken

A wrap or a pita bread here or there isn't going to make or break a gym rats diet mate, I take wraps into lectures with me sometimes.. hell of a lot more convenient than a lunch box full of turkey and rice tbh!

glen danbury

but whats the rationale as to why wraps are bad and rice is OK? bodybuilding dogma or actually rational theory?

God

So in your opinion twice a day is too much?

Well I'm hoping not but trying to do everything I can to gain size whilst keeping the podge off so thought I'd ask.

What's your opinion Glen? The fact that rice is less processed I suppose is a benefit but I wondered just how much difference it really makes.

martin brown

There isn't one lol

It's as bad as everyone dieting on rice cakes

sizar

is the starch mate.. when i cook rice .. i half cook it .. drain the wash it out let it steam up n get soft .. that more than 50% of the starch goes .but bread is just grinded wheat into powder .. into dough then it's been baked by some sort of heat. this contain far more starch .. but as i said if it works for you go a head. lol

sizar

[QUOTE=God;1471921]So in your opinion twice a day is too much?



twice a day it's too much for me.

glen danbury

Personally when trying to gain I would say they are fine. Typically there is some issues with wheat based products namely

• low satiety effect
• higher GI
• some intolerances.

The first two IMO are irrelevant in a bulking/gaining cycle and only really an issue when cutting unless you have a ravenous appetite on a gaining diet and overeat way above target kcals easily.

The final issue is one for concern but look at the following data

10% of japan have rice allergy because it a staple food
15% of people in the west are intolerant to wheat where it’s a staple food

So to me it seems if you eat one food constantly then your more likely to get an intolerance which to me suggests having a nice wide choice of foods

sizar - starch? starch is just the laymans term for the polysacharide for complex carb sources amylose is it not? rice and wheat both contain amylose, the fact you have washed of abit is irrelevant as if you are getting X amount of this substance from carbs from rice it isn't going to be much different from wheat

IMO the typical problem with wheat is its easy to overeat and becasue we eat so much of it in the western diet then we often build an intolerance - but if part of a mixed diet and you eat the right amount of carbs in total - very little difference

look at lee williams - youngest ever ANB overall british champ, two time UKBFF lightweight british champ and someone who gets in great condition and he eats bread right throughout his diet

God

Some top notch info, thank you.

hilly

nothing wrong with wholemeal/grain in the off season. to much makes me hold water and white bread gives me a bad stomach so i avoid that.

ba baracuss

It's fine mate. Pasta is crammed with calories and a baked spud has the same GI rating as table sugar

No carbs are great for staying mega lean if you're going to take it to the extreme. That's why keto is used for getting very lean as carbs make you hold water and glycogen and spike insulin.

I really wouldn't be such a food nazi if I were you though, it's not worth the worry.