My cutting diet - UK-Muscle Body Building Community

TYSON · 19-01-2005, 02:49 PM

I purchased the book that everyone is talking about but found that alot of things included i did not like so i have modified it to siute me.If you do not use this book then you probally wont understand the methods of the diet below. Just wondered if you have any comments on this version. I think that their is so many different varieties of food recepes in this book to stop you getting board with the same thing day in day out but as i say i dont like tuna and salmon ect so came up with this.

Question is will i loose weight on this plan and am i getting the nutrients i need.

BASIC DAYS INTAKE

Meal 1 1/4 cup oats and whey & multi vitamin

Meal 2 1/4 cup oats and whey

Meal 3 2oz of meat (chicken,pork or beef)
1 1/3oz of broccali
4oz of potatoes or ( 1 1/2 oz of rice or pasta)
500ml diet coke

JUST ONE THING, IF ANY OF YOU ARE ON LEVEL 2 OF THE CUTTING CYCLE THEN IS EACH OF THE FOUR MAIN MEALS ONLY AROUND 5-6 BIG SPOON FULLS WORTH OF FOOD AS THIS SEEMS SMALL TO ME

Meal 4 as above with 1 oz dark choclate instead of diet coke

TRAINING & THEN PROTEIN SHAKE

Meal 5 as meal 3

Meal 6 as above

BASICS.............................THIS TOTALS UP TO THE FOLLOWING ON A DAILY BASIS

8oz meat
4oz broccali
4oz potatoes or 1 1/2 oz of rice or pasta

I also use the seasoning that is given in this book.

**Jimmy** · 19-01-2005, 04:12 PM

Tyson

do level3 mate

you will loose BF

I started on level4 which is maintenance for me, I lost around 5-6lbs in 2 weeks

TYSON · 19-01-2005, 04:48 PM

Not sure if i asked this before but what should i get my BF down too before starting a bulking cycle using gear. PLEASE BE REALISTIC lol.

TYSON · 24-01-2005, 12:46 PM

Weighed in on friday using the above eating plan and as the chef x book says, i did loose 2lbs so i am happy but to eat well all week and train hard but also add cardio which i never used to do, to loose 2lbs is a bit dissapointing to be truthfull. I could go to the toilet in a minute and loose 4lbs just like that lol. As i asked above what should i realistically get my bf down to before using a bulk cycle.....

**big** · 24-01-2005, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by TYSON

Weighed in on friday using the above eating plan and as the chef x book says, i did loose 2lbs so i am happy but to eat well all week and train hard but also add cardio which i never used to do, to loose 2lbs is a bit dissapointing to be truthfull. I could go to the toilet in a minute and loose 4lbs just like that lol. As i asked above what should i realistically get my bf down to before using a bulk cycle.....

My opinion is 12% or lower. Any higher, and you run the risk of just getting fat. The leaner you are, the more muscle you put on. The fatter you are, the higher percentage of fat gets added. So if you started at 10% bodyfat, 90% of your kept gains may be lean mass. But if you started at 20% bodyfat, only 50% of your kept gains may be lean mass (the rest being fat).

You should only be losing 1-2lbs per week maximum when dieting. Any more and you're likely losing lean mass too. It IS a very slow process unfortunately, but it didn't go on overnight.

TYSON · 24-01-2005, 01:41 PM

Thats a very truE comment " IT DIDNT GO ON OVER NIGHT" so do you have any advice on maybe gear related issues to speed this process up. Their must be some secrets out their some where lol, currently using clen, didnt really notice the first two week cycle but have raised the dose for the second cycle which starts today.

**big** · 24-01-2005, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by TYSON

Thats a very truE comment " IT DIDNT GO ON OVER NIGHT" so do you have any advice on maybe gear related issues to speed this process up. Their must be some secrets out their some where lol

Well, clean and consistent diet is the quickest way to lose fat.

As for drugs, clen and eca work well. T3 works well too, in conjuction with anabolics. So does DNP. But all of these should only be used for fine tuning (i.e. when you're already at 12% or lower and want to get REALLY ripped). Some of these (dnp) have horrific sides.

TYSON · 24-01-2005, 01:50 PM

SO IS THE CLEN NOT BENEFITTING ME AT ALL OR IS IT HELPING BUT NOT TO ITS FULLEST POTENTIAL

**big** · 24-01-2005, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by TYSON

SO IS THE CLEN NOT BENEFITTING ME AT ALL OR IS IT HELPING BUT NOT TO ITS FULLEST POTENTIAL

I would say the latter - it will be helping a little, but it's not worth the risk in my opinion to running it if you're already quite high bodyfat.

I made the mistake of trying to run it when I was in the 18-20% bodyfat range, and didn't get any results. I then tried running it again when I was at around 11-12%, and the different was pretty clear.

IMO anyone should be able to get to 12% bodyfat with clean diet alone. It's only below that point that you need to start taking drugs to preserve muscle and/or burn fat.

Tuna_boi · 24-01-2005, 04:26 PM

Whats the book called? Please guys.

TYSON · 24-01-2005, 04:34 PM

Look on the forums for the CHEF X and their is a link to it their

**hackskii** · 24-01-2005, 05:47 PM

First of all the book can be purchased right here: http://www.regimenx.com/

Tyson, if you are loseing 2 lbs a week then this is good. I dont know why you would feel frusterated with those losses. Just think in 10 weeks, this is 20 lbs of mostly bodyfat. That is huge, that took longer to add the fat than take it off. Just be patient bro.

Just weight yourself once a week the same time the same day and use this as your guage. If you weigh your self in the morning you will be lighter than in the afternoon.

Keep the Ice Water intake up too.

Dont worry, you are doing just fine and are worrying about nothing.

I was on a diet very similar to yours and will probably start it shortly and when I notice the weight come off it just kept going. I had to periodically add food to slow down the weight loss.

TYSON · 24-01-2005, 10:53 PM

i know m8 but you have to realise when i used to train i was a youngster well in my twenties and diet was never an issue i just lifted and put in the gear, so to change my diet habbits so drastically at this time of my life (34) is very hard for me please remember i have returned to the sport after 10 years of no training and all i know is using the gear that is why i get so frustrated i just want to get on with it but it seems like i have to go backwards before i can go forwards. But i am listening to you guys and taking notice but it dont make it easy for me

**hackskii** · 25-01-2005, 02:29 AM

Bro, you are not going backwards!

Just the fact that you are here on this board asking the questions means that you are going forewards.

You are older and your metabolism has slowed down, Im 45 and its slower than you for sure.

You bought ChefX's book and the things in there you will just have to follow and trust that they will work.

You wont see gains or losses overnight.
Your losses are really good and nothing to take lightly.

I was 37 when I decided to get into the best shape of my life with some hurtles but it is most do able for sure.
Just relax.
I appreciate your vigor and compassion to do what you want and you will get there I promise you if you have patience.

This game is lost by quitters and won by doers.

You are doing just fine believe me. You will look at this in the future and will laugh.
Just have patience. You will be giving advice about diets before you know it.

Just sit back and enjoy the ride.
Rome was not built in a day and neither was Arnold;)

SportDr · 25-01-2005, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by TYSON

i know m8 but you have to realise when i used to train i was a youngster well in my twenties and diet was never an issue i just lifted and put in the gear, so to change my diet habbits so drastically at this time of my life (34) is very hard for me please remember i have returned to the sport after 10 years of no training and all i know is using the gear that is why i get so frustrated i just want to get on with it but it seems like i have to go backwards before i can go forwards. But i am listening to you guys and taking notice but it dont make it easy for me

Bro I am 32, started Diatia a few weeks back (massive change in diet) and haven't had many problems with it, so your age is no reason for you to struggle with this.

AS for training, 20 somethings tend to have higher test levels, but not by much, there certainly isnt any other reason physiologically why you couldn't gain as well now as you did then, its all psychological. (unless you are injured)

If your getting frustrated, you wanna get on, take the plunge do what you know you need to do, your plenty young enough to achieve everything you want and more, you have all the information you need, you just gotta put it into practise now.

Every success to you mate

SD

19-01-2005, 02:49 PM	#1 (permalink)
TYSON Looking Freaky Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: UK (Bedfordshire) Posts: 731	My cutting diet I purchased the book that everyone is talking about but found that alot of things included i did not like so i have modified it to siute me.If you do not use this book then you probally wont understand the methods of the diet below. Just wondered if you have any comments on this version. I think that their is so many different varieties of food recepes in this book to stop you getting board with the same thing day in day out but as i say i dont like tuna and salmon ect so came up with this. Question is will i loose weight on this plan and am i getting the nutrients i need. BASIC DAYS INTAKE Meal 1 1/4 cup oats and whey & multi vitamin Meal 2 1/4 cup oats and whey Meal 3 2oz of meat (chicken,pork or beef) 1 1/3oz of broccali 4oz of potatoes or ( 1 1/2 oz of rice or pasta) 500ml diet coke JUST ONE THING, IF ANY OF YOU ARE ON LEVEL 2 OF THE CUTTING CYCLE THEN IS EACH OF THE FOUR MAIN MEALS ONLY AROUND 5-6 BIG SPOON FULLS WORTH OF FOOD AS THIS SEEMS SMALL TO ME Meal 4 as above with 1 oz dark choclate instead of diet coke TRAINING & THEN PROTEIN SHAKE Meal 5 as meal 3 Meal 6 as above BASICS.............................THIS TOTALS UP TO THE FOLLOWING ON A DAILY BASIS 8oz meat 4oz broccali 4oz potatoes or 1 1/2 oz of rice or pasta I also use the seasoning that is given in this book. __________________ :lift: BODYBUILDERS DO IT TILL IT HURTS:lift: Last edited by TYSON; 19-01-2005 at 02:53 PM.

19-01-2005, 04:12 PM	#2 (permalink)
Jimmy UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Forest gym crawley Posts: 4,418	Tyson do level3 mate you will loose BF I started on level4 which is maintenance for me, I lost around 5-6lbs in 2 weeks __________________ *To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.* 'Genetics is the science of heredity and variation in living organisms. Inheritance in organisms occurs by means of discrete traits, called genes.'

19-01-2005, 04:48 PM	#3 (permalink)
TYSON Looking Freaky Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: UK (Bedfordshire) Posts: 731	Not sure if i asked this before but what should i get my BF down too before starting a bulking cycle using gear. PLEASE BE REALISTIC lol. __________________ :lift: BODYBUILDERS DO IT TILL IT HURTS:lift:

24-01-2005, 12:46 PM	#4 (permalink)
TYSON Looking Freaky Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: UK (Bedfordshire) Posts: 731	Weighed in on friday using the above eating plan and as the chef x book says, i did loose 2lbs so i am happy but to eat well all week and train hard but also add cardio which i never used to do, to loose 2lbs is a bit dissapointing to be truthfull. I could go to the toilet in a minute and loose 4lbs just like that lol. As i asked above what should i realistically get my bf down to before using a bulk cycle..... __________________ :lift: BODYBUILDERS DO IT TILL IT HURTS:lift:

24-01-2005, 01:41 PM	#6 (permalink)
TYSON Looking Freaky Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: UK (Bedfordshire) Posts: 731	Thats a very truE comment " IT DIDNT GO ON OVER NIGHT" so do you have any advice on maybe gear related issues to speed this process up. Their must be some secrets out their some where lol, currently using clen, didnt really notice the first two week cycle but have raised the dose for the second cycle which starts today. __________________ :lift: BODYBUILDERS DO IT TILL IT HURTS:lift:

24-01-2005, 01:50 PM	#8 (permalink)
TYSON Looking Freaky Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: UK (Bedfordshire) Posts: 731	SO IS THE CLEN NOT BENEFITTING ME AT ALL OR IS IT HELPING BUT NOT TO ITS FULLEST POTENTIAL __________________ :lift: BODYBUILDERS DO IT TILL IT HURTS:lift:

24-01-2005, 04:26 PM	#10 (permalink)
Tuna_boi Official Uk-Muscle Mascot Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Banded Posts: 931	Whats the book called? Please guys. __________________ "Don't you smile at me like that. That's not even a real smile- just a bunch of teeth playing with my mind!" "My size? My size is the amount of space I fill up. Thanks for asking." Winny is for horses-Insanity ( exactly that ) see it eat it and join a gym- Moray muscle "you musat get stronger every week to grow fast" - Myseone ( Lmfao )

24-01-2005, 04:34 PM	#11 (permalink)
TYSON Looking Freaky Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: UK (Bedfordshire) Posts: 731	Look on the forums for the CHEF X and their is a link to it their __________________ :lift: BODYBUILDERS DO IT TILL IT HURTS:lift:

24-01-2005, 05:47 PM	#12 (permalink)
hackskii UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sunny Southern California U.S.A. Posts: 23,704	First of all the book can be purchased right here: http://www.regimenx.com/ Tyson, if you are loseing 2 lbs a week then this is good. I dont know why you would feel frusterated with those losses. Just think in 10 weeks, this is 20 lbs of mostly bodyfat. That is huge, that took longer to add the fat than take it off. Just be patient bro. Just weight yourself once a week the same time the same day and use this as your guage. If you weigh your self in the morning you will be lighter than in the afternoon. Keep the Ice Water intake up too. Dont worry, you are doing just fine and are worrying about nothing. I was on a diet very similar to yours and will probably start it shortly and when I notice the weight come off it just kept going. I had to periodically add food to slow down the weight loss. __________________ "Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away." - George Carlin Scott To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

24-01-2005, 10:53 PM	#13 (permalink)
TYSON Looking Freaky Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: UK (Bedfordshire) Posts: 731	i know m8 but you have to realise when i used to train i was a youngster well in my twenties and diet was never an issue i just lifted and put in the gear, so to change my diet habbits so drastically at this time of my life (34) is very hard for me please remember i have returned to the sport after 10 years of no training and all i know is using the gear that is why i get so frustrated i just want to get on with it but it seems like i have to go backwards before i can go forwards. But i am listening to you guys and taking notice but it dont make it easy for me __________________ :lift: BODYBUILDERS DO IT TILL IT HURTS:lift:

25-01-2005, 02:29 AM	#14 (permalink)
hackskii UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sunny Southern California U.S.A. Posts: 23,704	Bro, you are not going backwards! Just the fact that you are here on this board asking the questions means that you are going forewards. You are older and your metabolism has slowed down, Im 45 and its slower than you for sure. You bought ChefX's book and the things in there you will just have to follow and trust that they will work. You wont see gains or losses overnight. Your losses are really good and nothing to take lightly. I was 37 when I decided to get into the best shape of my life with some hurtles but it is most do able for sure. Just relax. I appreciate your vigor and compassion to do what you want and you will get there I promise you if you have patience. This game is lost by quitters and won by doers. You are doing just fine believe me. You will look at this in the future and will laugh. Just have patience. You will be giving advice about diets before you know it. Just sit back and enjoy the ride. Rome was not built in a day and neither was Arnold;) __________________ "Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away." - George Carlin Scott To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.