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Old 09-01-2005, 01:08 AM   #1 (permalink)
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New to site, Diet Advice Please...

Hi everyone I'm new here, My name is Gary I'm 25, 6'2" 220lb, 17%BF...

I have been training for 9 month the first 6 month was cutting I went from 238lbs @ 26%BF to 196lbs @ 14%BF in that time. I then tried to clean bulk over the last 3 month, but I cheated a bit at X-mass so I'm back up to 220lb @ 17%BF...

I store most of my fat around my waist, which what I'm going to try loose for summer this is the plan:

Cardio on empty stomach very easy bike ride just low intensity 5 x week...

Diet
09:30
Meal 1
1 Cup Oats
Whey in water
Banana
11:30
Meal 2
1 Can Tuna
Apple
01:30
Meal 3
6oz Chicken
1 Cup of Broccoli
1 TBSP Olive Oil
03:30
Meal 4
1 Can Tuna
½ Cup Oats
06:00
PWO
whey in water
07:00
Meal 5
6oz Chicken
½ Cup Rice
olive oil
10:00
Meal 6
½ Cup Cottage Cheese
1 TBSP Flax Oil
Totals
Cals Fat CarbProt
215060161248
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Old 09-01-2005, 01:11 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Looks good to me mate. I have lost alot of fat and there aint nothing magic about it mate its just all down to good diet and loads of cardio then more good diet then more cardio lol.

Stick at it bud and you will get what you are looking for.
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Old 09-01-2005, 01:16 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Thanks for the input Rob, I've seen your pics your looking good how long have you been cutting for now?
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Old 09-01-2005, 01:19 AM   #4 (permalink)
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This is one of the first "critique my diet" posts where your diet is pretty solid. Even if you changed nothing, you'd have great results. Good job on your research.

You have all of the right foods in there. It's exceptionally clean.

I would say that your calories look a bit low to start you off with though. For a 220lb guy, 2000 cals will be too catabolic in my opinion. You should shoot for 3000 to start with, and only lower them if you're not able to lose bodyfat each week. With those foods, 3000 calories (the extra coming from proteins and good fats only), you'd turn your body into a food burning unit.

I do struggle to believe that you're consuming 60g of fat on that diet. You've got 1/2 cup of cottage cheese which is about 5g, and 3 tbsp of oil which are about 15-20g. Where is the rest coming from?
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Well ive been trying to loose weight for about 18 months to 2 years now but seriously cutting since Jimmy started helping me about 8-9 monmths or so maybe a little longer lol.

Im no diet guru but your diet looks ok to me and the ratios are about the same as what i used. I used more cals like cause i was bigger but ratios are similar.
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Old 09-01-2005, 01:31 AM   #6 (permalink)
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This is one of the first "critique my diet" posts where your diet is pretty solid. Even if you changed nothing, you'd have great results. Good job on your research.

You have all of the right foods in there. It's exceptionally clean.

I would say that your calories look a bit low to start you off with though. For a 220lb guy, 2000 cals will be too catabolic in my opinion. You should shoot for 3000 to start with, and only lower them if you're not able to lose bodyfat each week. With those foods, 3000 calories (the extra coming from proteins and good fats only), you'd turn your body into a food burning unit.

I do struggle to believe that you're consuming 60g of fat on that diet. You've got 1/2 cup of cottage cheese which is about 5g, and 3 tbsp of oil which are about 15-20g. Where is the rest coming from?
Thanks for the advice m8, believe it or not I was bulking with 2800 cals and maintaining at 2400 cals. I was training on a 3 day split for around 45-60min, I wasn’t doing any other exercise at all though. I work from home building computers so I don't burn many cals at all...
I think the fat is like you say with the Oil and maybe the odd cal in the oats, maybe a cal in the whey concentrate. I did it through www.fitday.com so It may be slightly out...
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Thanks for the advice m8, believe it or not I was bulking with 2800 cals and maintaining at 2400 cals. I was training on a 3 day split for around 45-60min, I wasn’t doing any other exercise at all though. I work from home building computers so I don't burn many cals at all...
I used to be the same way - I would maintain on about 2200-2400 calories. I now maintain on 4000 calories, and my weight is not THAT much different. When I was cutting at the beginning of last year, I was using 2000 calories. This year when I begin cutting, I'll be shooting for 3500 calories. On the 2000 calories I plateau'd at 10% and couldn't get lower, as I couldn't eat any less than that! Since I'll be cutting at 3500 this year, once I plateau, I'll just drop calories slightly as I'll have that flexibility. That's something I couldn't do at 2000 calories, and I'm sure that you'll struggle to do that too when you inevitably do plateau.

How I sped up my metabolism so much is a combination of getting half of my calories from protein (yes, 500g a day), 45-60 mins of VERY low intensity (walking) cardio every day (even when bulking) and cutting out carbs completely from mid-afternoon onwards. All of my fats (25-30% of my calories) come from flax, olive oil and fish oils.

Just food for thought (no pun intended!)
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I used to be the same way - I would maintain on about 2200-2400 calories. I now maintain on 4000 calories, and my weight is not THAT much different. When I was cutting at the beginning of last year, I was using 2000 calories. This year when I begin cutting, I'll be shooting for 3500 calories. On the 2000 calories I plateau'd at 10% and couldn't get lower, as I couldn't eat any less than that! Since I'll be cutting at 3500 this year, once I plateau, I'll just drop calories slightly as I'll have that flexibility. That's something I couldn't do at 2000 calories, and I'm sure that you'll struggle to do that too when you inevitably do plateau.

How I sped up my metabolism so much is a combination of getting half of my calories from protein (yes, 500g a day), 45-60 mins of VERY low intensity (walking) cardio every day (even when bulking) and cutting out carbs completely from mid-afternoon onwards. All of my fats (25-30% of my calories) come from flax, olive oil and fish oils.

Just food for thought (no pun intended!)
That's what happened once I got down to 14% and I just hit a plateau. I was told to do a short clean bulk and try raise my metabolism back up. I never though of doing VERY low intensity cardio while bulking that could be just what I needed. I'm wanting to hit the 10% mark this time so I'm hoping not to plateau to early... I think if I do plateau this time instead of cutting cals like I did last time (even as low as 1400 a day), I will increase cals a little and up the low intensity cardio... Thanks...
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if you diet like this constantly without a break you will need a refeed day every so often not really eating crap but high carbs this will get you over the plateau...

i can see where the fat comes from (OLive oli/Flax/Chicken/Oats) but i think you are eaing to little fat i would aim for approx 90-100g eat oily fish every third day or/and take fish oils each day to take up the slack
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