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Girl4 · 11-09-2008, 10:30 PM

Ok I kinda confused as I thought that eggs contain lots of fat/cholestrel (sp?) so how come a lot of people on here seem to eat loads of them?

Tia

MaKaVeLi · 11-09-2008, 10:31 PM

It's the yolk with all the fat, whites are what most people eat

AP11 · 11-09-2008, 10:40 PM

Your diet only effects your cholesteral by around 10%, if you're healthy.

Eating many eggs isn't really going to negatively effect you, and extra cholesteral is good for a bodybuilder.

Alternatively you could buy omega-3 eggs. They're produced by chickens fed on flax seeds, rather than corn (which is unnatural to chickens and produces more saturated fats.)

**Nytol** · 11-09-2008, 11:05 PM

The Yolk is fine and good for you, DO NOT THROW IT AWAY, whole egg is a great protein source, egg white, is a poor one.

MXD · 11-09-2008, 11:12 PM

ARRRRHGHHGHGHGHGHGHGHGHH!!!

Good/bad dietary intake
Oxidised cholesterol = BAD
Cholesterol = GOOD

AVOID
skim / reduced fat milk as it has spray dried milk = oxidised cholesterol
sugary carbohydrates coupled with high rancid mufa, pufa intake as these increase cholesterol oxidation and vldl cholesterol the one thats bad.

So don't cook with olive oils or eat any heat extracted oils such as
canola oil
suflour oil
vegetable oil
nut oils
All of these a allready rancid or rancidify stupidly easily

http://www.chekinstitute.com/articles.cfm?select=74

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Fats to Consume

1. Organic, free-range animal meats and fats such as lard, tallow etc. Good for cooking at high heat.
2. Fish (Or due to the high levels of heavy metals and other toxins in fish today, high quality fish-oil supplements may be a good option. These should come from wild fish that have been filtered for heavy metal toxicity and other metal toxicity.)
3. Organic, free-range eggs – the whole complete egg including the yolk, which should be kept intact during cooking to prevent oxidizing the cholesterol in the yolk. Best methods are boiling or low-temperature poaching and frying.
4. Raw nuts, soaked before eating to break down the phyto-nutrients and makes all the nutrients more bio-available.
5. Avocados – a good source of monounsaturated oleic acid.
6. Cold-pressed, unfiltered organic olive oil – a good source of monounsaturated oleic acid and may be used for cooking at moderate temps.
7. Butter, raw if possible – Butter has many benefits including fat-soluble vitamins, short and medium chain FA, small, but equal amounts of Ω-3 and Ω-6 FA, conjugated linoleic acid (if the butter is from pasture-fed cows only - this has strong anti-cancer properties), lecithin, cholesterol, trace minerals and more.
8. Ghee (clarified butter)
9. Coconut oil or butter – high in medium-chain FA that is good for using at high heat.
10. Pumpkin seed oil
11. Flax seed oil – very high Ω-3 content. Always keep refrigerated and never heat.
12. Castor oil
13. Cod liver oil
14. Palm oil - Good for cooking at high heat.

Fats to avoid or limit

1. Hydrogenated and partially hydrogenated oils - These contain trans-fatty acids that look more like plastic that fats under a microscope. Your body is not designed to eat plastics!
2. Canola oil – Has a high sulphur content, goes rancid easily, contains trans-fatty acids (created during deodorizing of oil), can cause deficiency of Vitamin E and may cause fibrotic heart lesions.
3. Soy oil – highly processes and high in Ω-6 FA
4. Corn, safflower, cottonseed and sunflower oils – high in Ω-6 FA, very low in Ω-3
5. Peanut and sesame oils - OK for cooking at moderate temps, but limit the use because of Ω-6 FA content.

Girl4 · 11-09-2008, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by AP11

Your diet only effects your cholesteral by around 10%, if you're healthy.

Eating many eggs isn't really going to negatively effect you, and extra cholesteral is good for a bodybuilder.

Alternatively you could buy omega-3 eggs. They're produced by chickens fed on flax seeds, rather than corn (which is unnatural to chickens and produces more saturated fats.)

Ohh how come?
Is this still the case when trying to lose weight?

Tia

Edited to add: Sorry if it seems like a duh question :$ lol ...I'm just starting to get my head around what's good to eat and not to eat etc and just consumed an egg today.....my first in about 3 years!!!

MXD · 11-09-2008, 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Girl4

Ohh how come?
Is this still the case when trying to lose weight?

Tia

Cholesterol is the root tree of all fat based hormones

+ there are many benifits of having high cholesterol, for instance people with high colesterol live longer.

Statins are evil and seriously mad they stop the liver producing it but also bile acids which are critical for digestion.

They also make you stupidly depressed as your seretonin receptors are dependant on cholesterol. Also you cut your cholesterol your test plumments as its the root tree so you get libido problems.

So statins = anti depressants + viagra + poor digestion + shorter life

What a great medical comunity we have in the world.

**Nytol** · 11-09-2008, 11:31 PM

Excellent posts, MXD

MXD · 11-09-2008, 11:34 PM

Cheers bud

Girl4 · 11-09-2008, 11:49 PM

Thanks for the advice

Ollie B · 12-09-2008, 07:45 AM

For breakfast I have 6 egg whites with 2 yolks for fats. Good protein

Beklet · 16-09-2008, 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MXD

Cholesterol is the root tree of all fat based hormones

+ there are many benifits of having high cholesterol, for instance people with high colesterol live longer.

Statins are evil and seriously mad they stop the liver producing it but also bile acids which are critical for digestion.

They also make you stupidly depressed as your seretonin receptors are dependant on cholesterol. Also you cut your cholesterol your test plumments as its the root tree so you get libido problems.

So statins = anti depressants + viagra + poor digestion + shorter life

What a great medical comunity we have in the world.

Spot on! And don't forget that statins can cause horrendous birth defects that puts Thalidomide to shame......

The yolk is the best bit - it's where most of the vitamins are as well.

Have to be free range or organic though - battery eggs have far less folic acid and vitamins in them...

11-09-2008, 10:30 PM	#1 (permalink)
Girl4 What doesn't kill us can only make us stronger Join Date: May 2008 Location: Somewhere over the rainbow Posts: 623	Eggs Ok I kinda confused as I thought that eggs contain lots of fat/cholestrel (sp?) so how come a lot of people on here seem to eat loads of them? Tia

11-09-2008, 10:31 PM	#2 (permalink)
MaKaVeLi Is lactating from the PCT meds Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 5,823	Re: Eggs It's the yolk with all the fat, whites are what most people eat

11-09-2008, 10:40 PM	#3 (permalink)
AP11 Newbie Trainer Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Sussex Posts: 13	Re: Eggs Your diet only effects your cholesteral by around 10%, if you're healthy. Eating many eggs isn't really going to negatively effect you, and extra cholesteral is good for a bodybuilder. Alternatively you could buy omega-3 eggs. They're produced by chickens fed on flax seeds, rather than corn (which is unnatural to chickens and produces more saturated fats.) Last edited by AP11; 11-09-2008 at 10:48 PM.

11-09-2008, 11:05 PM	#4 (permalink)
Nytol All Knowing Moderator Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: UK Posts: 5,111	Re: Eggs The Yolk is fine and good for you, DO NOT THROW IT AWAY, whole egg is a great protein source, egg white, is a poor one. __________________ www.ukiron.net www.powerliftinguk.com

11-09-2008, 11:31 PM	#8 (permalink)
Nytol All Knowing Moderator Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: UK Posts: 5,111	Re: Eggs Excellent posts, MXD __________________ www.ukiron.net www.powerliftinguk.com

11-09-2008, 11:34 PM	#9 (permalink)
MXD v&e FTW Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Burmz Posts: 2,842 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Eggs Cheers bud __________________ Pb's: Bench:1403 - DL 2203 - Squat to // 232.5 - ATG squat 1605 - ATG fronts 1503 - CRGPD's 11010 Max Drapkin Create your badge www.myprotein.co.uk - MP27405 for 5% off 1st order*

11-09-2008, 11:49 PM	#10 (permalink)
Girl4 What doesn't kill us can only make us stronger Join Date: May 2008 Location: Somewhere over the rainbow Posts: 623	Re: Eggs Thanks for the advice

12-09-2008, 07:45 AM	#11 (permalink)
Ollie B On Holiday until 20th July Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 7,196	Re: Eggs For breakfast I have 6 egg whites with 2 yolks for fats. Good protein __________________ MY JOURNAL <<<< Click Here

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