Me and my diet Help wanted - UK-Muscle Body Building Community

scarface · 31-03-2004, 11:40 PM

Hello all
Im going to post my usual diet and was hopeing some of you guys could tell me if it is ok for being on a cycle and if and where im going wrong.

meal 1
4 wheatabix or 4 shreded wheat or rice krispies and 3 boiled eggs

meal 2
2 salmon sandwichs on mixed bread and 1 bannana & 2 apples
or
2 beef sandwichs on mixed bread and 1 bannana & 2 apples

meal 3
pasta with cheese and bacon mixed in with the fat cut off the bacon
or
chicken & white or brown rice & peppers & onions

meal 4
a bowl of fresh mixed fruit (oranges, strawberrys, bannana,apple, kiwi)

meal 5
roast potatoes and beef or chicken
or
beef chilli and rice

meal 6
1 tin of tuna

I drink 2.5-3.5 ltr of squash no added sugar and cook all food in olive oil. I dont realy eat veg so try to make up with fruit, could you also point out to me were i should be putting my protein shakes, i also plan to add meal replacements and meal bars on top of this diet

verve · 01-04-2004, 01:39 AM

need some protein in meal 4.protein shake in milk just before bed.and one in water after a workout.some people have them at other times,but those r the 2 most important ones of the day IMO.some ppl find it hard 2 eat a solid breakfats first thing in the morning,so they have a protein shake then and follow up with a proper breakfast about an hour later.when doing a cycle u will want to be taking in more protein than usual,so u will probably want to take in extra if possible.for breakfast something like oatmeal would be best,this is loaded with slow digesting cabs,which will give u a steady stream of energy throughout the day.it's good to have the mixed fruit in their,but it's not a complete meal, and also try add in some veg,broccoli,asparagus,carrot are all good choices.a can of tuna on it's own isn't a complete meal,u need carbs and healthy fats in their.i like tuna as well,and have at least a can perday,but other fish such as cod and salmon will give u healthy fats also.make u sure that u try and take in as much water as u can,i don't know if ur using oral or injectables but orals are hard on the liver, as is taking in a lot of protein,so try take in lots of water to help ur body out.i don't know much about roids, but they say first cycle=best cycle, so make sure u get the most out of it otherwise u will regret it.

Killerkeane · 01-04-2004, 10:16 AM

should also squeeze some veg in there, very important is my veg, even 2-3 portions a day would be beneficial to ya

Musclehed · 01-04-2004, 11:47 AM

Hey,

what are you goals, bulking or cutting?

Just out of interest how long have you been training for? People seem to be moving to steroids sooner and sooner

My belief is that naturally we can so far, ripped, cut and huge. This is reached after years and years of training and perfect diet to reach out genetic peak.

After this, once the plateau is reached. Steroids can be used to surpass your genetic limits.

Just my thoughts

scarface · 01-04-2004, 02:47 PM

Thanks for the extra advice, my main aim is to bulk up ive been training for around 4 1/2 years but never trained to bulk up mainly to tone up and lose weight. When i first started training i was a propper fat fcuk at 6'2 and weighing 17 1/2 stone but mainly fat im now 14 st and would like to go back up to around 16 /16.7 st but with extra muscle on the frame, for around the last year the weights im lifting hasnt changed so i started to do some research into roids and use injectables and decided thats the way forward for me.
Thanks

Musclehed · 01-04-2004, 10:05 PM

you have never done a bulking diet??? And you are wondering why your lifting hasnt changed in the last year!!. Diet is everything, you cannot expect to get bigger/stronger without eating shed loadsa protein and having everything else in check. Spend a lot of time on good bulking diet and high volume lifting, before moving onto roids

Musclehed · 01-04-2004, 10:11 PM

I urge and beg everybody to read these articles

http://t-mag.com/html/146mass.html
http://t-mag.com/html/147mass.html

Enjoy

Jock · 04-04-2004, 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Musclehed

you have never done a bulking diet??? And you are wondering why your lifting hasnt changed in the last year!!. Diet is everything, you cannot expect to get bigger/stronger without eating shed loadsa protein and having everything else in check. Spend a lot of time on good bulking diet and high volume lifting, before moving onto roids

Cannot agree more with this.

People wonder why they don't grow when their diet consists of sh1te

Panthro · 04-04-2004, 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Musclehed

you have never done a bulking diet??? And you are wondering why your lifting hasnt changed in the last year!!. Diet is everything, you cannot expect to get bigger/stronger without eating shed loadsa protein and having everything else in check. Spend a lot of time on good bulking diet and high volume lifting, before moving onto roids

I love you musclehead. lol, seriously mate, i say exactly the same till i go fcuking blue in the face. 8 times out of 10 they wont listen... oh well..

DIET IS THE KEY TO BODYBUILDING.

Panthro · 04-04-2004, 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Musclehed

I urge and beg everybody to read these articles

http://t-mag.com/html/146mass.html
http://t-mag.com/html/147mass.html

Enjoy

2 EXCELLENT ARTICLES. PLEASE READ THEM!

Musclehed · 04-04-2004, 06:17 PM

Hey, cheers guys. If your interested John Berardi recently updated and modified the massive eating program here;

http://www.t-mag.com/nation_articles/302mass.jsp
http://www.t-mag.com/nation_articles/303mass.jsp

If you have every seen pictures of Berardi, its proof in itself. Check his homepage(http://www.johnberardi.com/) for more articles, he does personal programs over the internet too (if only I could afford it).

Enjoy, and thanks again

Jock · 04-04-2004, 06:22 PM

Nice links mate, cheers!

scarface · 05-04-2004, 12:48 PM

Thanks Musclehead for the advice.....Jock can ask why you think my diet is sh1t as i think i only need to add more protien onto my present diet which in my eyes contains good carbs ,protein and fat.
Thanks.

Panthro · 05-04-2004, 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scarface

Thanks Musclehead for the advice.....Jock can ask why you think my diet is sh1t as i think i only need to add more protien onto my present diet which in my eyes contains good carbs ,protein and fat.
Thanks.

Massively lacking in protein.

No good fats in there. (ok, 3 egg yolks and thats it- Also cooking food in oilive oil doesnt mean much because as soon as you heat oil, it degrades into sh1t fat! )

Bread-Not a good carb

Roast potatos.- not an ideal bbing food! Sh1t fat, high glycemic carbs..

Add some green veg, brocolli/spinnach/peas

Try not to rely on MRP's/Protein shakes too much. Get as much as your protein from whole foods. Try to only have supplements post workout and whey 1st thing AM. Rest of the time, every 2-3 hours, get lots of whole food protein down you

Jock · 05-04-2004, 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scarface

Jock can ask why you think my diet is sh1t as i think i only need to add more protien onto my present diet which in my eyes contains good carbs ,protein and fat.
Thanks.

I didn't say I thought your diet was sh1t mate.

However, it needs a lot of serious attention. There is a serious lack of protein in your diet, without protein you will not grow much at all.

I think your diet needs a major overhaul and you need a consistantly good diet for 2-3 years before considering steroids.

Have a look at Panthro's signature and ask yourself if your diet is helping you put on muscle or is it holding you back from reaching your goals.

Without eating properly you are wasting time, money and effort.

Best of luck, Jock

31-03-2004, 11:40 PM	#1 (permalink)
scarface Newbie Trainer Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Wolverhampton Posts: 12	Me and my diet Help wanted Hello all Im going to post my usual diet and was hopeing some of you guys could tell me if it is ok for being on a cycle and if and where im going wrong. meal 1 4 wheatabix or 4 shreded wheat or rice krispies and 3 boiled eggs meal 2 2 salmon sandwichs on mixed bread and 1 bannana & 2 apples or 2 beef sandwichs on mixed bread and 1 bannana & 2 apples meal 3 pasta with cheese and bacon mixed in with the fat cut off the bacon or chicken & white or brown rice & peppers & onions meal 4 a bowl of fresh mixed fruit (oranges, strawberrys, bannana,apple, kiwi) meal 5 roast potatoes and beef or chicken or beef chilli and rice meal 6 1 tin of tuna I drink 2.5-3.5 ltr of squash no added sugar and cook all food in olive oil. I dont realy eat veg so try to make up with fruit, could you also point out to me were i should be putting my protein shakes, i also plan to add meal replacements and meal bars on top of this diet

01-04-2004, 10:16 AM	#3 (permalink)
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01-04-2004, 01:39 AM	#2 (permalink)
verve 666 Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: At work, probably. Posts: 674	need some protein in meal 4.protein shake in milk just before bed.and one in water after a workout.some people have them at other times,but those r the 2 most important ones of the day IMO.some ppl find it hard 2 eat a solid breakfats first thing in the morning,so they have a protein shake then and follow up with a proper breakfast about an hour later.when doing a cycle u will want to be taking in more protein than usual,so u will probably want to take in extra if possible.for breakfast something like oatmeal would be best,this is loaded with slow digesting cabs,which will give u a steady stream of energy throughout the day.it's good to have the mixed fruit in their,but it's not a complete meal, and also try add in some veg,broccoli,asparagus,carrot are all good choices.a can of tuna on it's own isn't a complete meal,u need carbs and healthy fats in their.i like tuna as well,and have at least a can perday,but other fish such as cod and salmon will give u healthy fats also.make u sure that u try and take in as much water as u can,i don't know if ur using oral or injectables but orals are hard on the liver, as is taking in a lot of protein,so try take in lots of water to help ur body out.i don't know much about roids, but they say first cycle=best cycle, so make sure u get the most out of it otherwise u will regret it.

01-04-2004, 11:47 AM	#4 (permalink)
Musclehed Gym Addict Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 156	Hey, what are you goals, bulking or cutting? Just out of interest how long have you been training for? People seem to be moving to steroids sooner and sooner My belief is that naturally we can so far, ripped, cut and huge. This is reached after years and years of training and perfect diet to reach out genetic peak. After this, once the plateau is reached. Steroids can be used to surpass your genetic limits. Just my thoughts

01-04-2004, 02:47 PM	#5 (permalink)
scarface Newbie Trainer Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Wolverhampton Posts: 12	Thanks for the extra advice, my main aim is to bulk up ive been training for around 4 1/2 years but never trained to bulk up mainly to tone up and lose weight. When i first started training i was a propper fat fcuk at 6'2 and weighing 17 1/2 stone but mainly fat im now 14 st and would like to go back up to around 16 /16.7 st but with extra muscle on the frame, for around the last year the weights im lifting hasnt changed so i started to do some research into roids and use injectables and decided thats the way forward for me. Thanks

01-04-2004, 10:05 PM	#6 (permalink)
Musclehed Gym Addict Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 156	you have never done a bulking diet??? And you are wondering why your lifting hasnt changed in the last year!!. Diet is everything, you cannot expect to get bigger/stronger without eating shed loadsa protein and having everything else in check. Spend a lot of time on good bulking diet and high volume lifting, before moving onto roids

01-04-2004, 10:11 PM	#7 (permalink)
Musclehed Gym Addict Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 156	I urge and beg everybody to read these articles http://t-mag.com/html/146mass.html http://t-mag.com/html/147mass.html Enjoy

04-04-2004, 06:17 PM	#11 (permalink)
Musclehed Gym Addict Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 156	Hey, cheers guys. If your interested John Berardi recently updated and modified the massive eating program here; http://www.t-mag.com/nation_articles/302mass.jsp http://www.t-mag.com/nation_articles/303mass.jsp If you have every seen pictures of Berardi, its proof in itself. Check his homepage(http://www.johnberardi.com/) for more articles, he does personal programs over the internet too (if only I could afford it). Enjoy, and thanks again

05-04-2004, 12:48 PM	#13 (permalink)
scarface Newbie Trainer Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Wolverhampton Posts: 12	Thanks Musclehead for the advice.....Jock can ask why you think my diet is sh1t as i think i only need to add more protien onto my present diet which in my eyes contains good carbs ,protein and fat. Thanks.