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big ash · 14-11-2006, 11:06 PM

7.30 - 4 weetabix
9.45- 50 g protein shake, one egg sandwich(2 eggs) n bag of crisps
12.45-chicken n pasta meal aprox 50g protein and egg sandwich
3- mash patato, one egg sandwich
5 protein shake 50g protein
GYM
7 protein shake
10 a meal with abit of protein in

Timmy Smooth · 14-11-2006, 11:12 PM

What type of protein is it? If it's Whey then I'd advise that first thing in the morning for the quickest protein absorbtion to start your day. What do you intend to eat with the 4 Weetabix?

Timmy Smooth · 14-11-2006, 11:15 PM

You've got the protein shake after training, but what about a simple carbohydrate source to replenish Glycogen levels in your muscles? On one hand you have dedicated PWO drinks with Dextrose and the like. On the other, you could have a Lucozade or something. Hell, it's not pretty, but in emergeancies I've just had a chocolate bar if I've left my normal supps at home.

**big** · 15-11-2006, 07:31 AM

What are your goals?

To be honest dude, it's not so good. It says in your sig that you are currently cutting, but eating crisps, sandwiches and potatos is far from ideal.

Have a read of some of the posts by tinytom, pscarb and hackskii in the diet section, particularly timed carb and carb cycling. These will explain how to diet effectively.

invisiblekid · 17-11-2006, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by big ash

7.30 - 4 weetabix - Oats are better - with water (some nuts or reduced sugar jam)
9.45- 50 g protein shake, one egg sandwich(2 eggs) n bag of crisps NO crisps. Scrambled eggs? Whole eggs? White Bread? Why not tuna + wholemeal pasta or better still chicken and rice
12.45-chicken n pasta meal aprox 50g protein and egg sandwich Bread and pasta? One or the other. Again, wholemeal pasta. Better still rice.
3- mash patato, one egg sandwich I'm guessing you like bread, right? Baked spud if you must have spuds - based on you're probably adding butter and milk to make mash.
5 protein shake 50g protein
GYM
7 protein shake + carbs. Research PWO shakes. Ideally 50g Protein + 75g - 100g carbs (some say simple e.g. Dextrose others say any carbs e.g. oats)
10 a meal with abit of protein in - slow release protein if you are going to eat before bed. Dairy - but I'd probably avoid dairy if you are cutting

Needs some work mate. Try and get a ratio of protein to carbs to fats (something like 40/40/20 - might be less carbs when cutting) and also calculate your calorie needs.

**hackskii** · 17-11-2006, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by big ash

7.30 - 4 weetabix Need a protein and fat here and a better lower GI carb here like oats (not instant).
9.45- 50 g protein shake, one egg sandwich(2 eggs) n bag of crisps Drop the crisps, choose a quality bread or substitute the bread for a large apple, maybe some nuts here.
12.45-chicken n pasta meal aprox 50g protein and egg sandwich Drop the pasta and eat a vegetable that is high in fiber or a sweet potato.
3- mash patato, one egg sandwich Too much bread for dieting and eat a vegetable or a sweet potato
5 protein shake 50g protein
GYM
7 protein shake Could add a carb here, but I disagree with the simple sugar carb like most use, some oats would be ok blended.
10 a meal with abit of protein in protein and fat in this meal with no carbs

When I diet I like to keep the GI of the carbs low, eat frequently, drink lots of water and add fiber, you are too high in processed carbohydrates, too low in dietary fats and too low in good fats.

invisiblekid · 18-11-2006, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by hackskii

When I diet I like to keep the GI of the carbs low, eat frequently, drink lots of water and add fiber, you are too high in processed carbohydrates, too low in dietary fats and too low in good fats.

The man is spot on, as usual. Looking back over your diet - the lack of fruit and veg is worrying. You need some fiber in there.

WongFuHung · 18-11-2006, 07:59 PM

Have you considered cooking up a big bathc of chicken breasts to replace some of those shakes?

**hackskii** · 18-11-2006, 10:49 PM

I cook up 6 chicken breasts on my grill on sundays.
Got it down to a science.
4 minutes each side (skinless) on high and I shut it off.
When they cool down I put them in baggies for my lunches.

Italian sausage, same, 4 minutes and turn for 4 minutes, allllllllllllll done.
I use stuff like apples, carrots, radishes, tomato's, berries for my carbs at work.
Sometimes I cook up a ton of rice and put those in baggies (I have a rice cooker), when I need them I just grab them and toss them in my lunch.

I am lazy and try to keep it as simple as possible.
If I need more fat in my diet I take a bunch of fish oils into work.

I do think whole foods are better, but I do have a shake PWO.

big ash · 20-11-2006, 12:06 AM

hi guys sorry but my sig is wrong im currently bulking at the moment and my 1st n last protein shakes are 50g with 68 g of carbs n the 2nd is 50g of protein and like 12 carbs..

ok well thanks guys can u give me some more info and feed back plz and ill try to fix it :lift:

invisiblekid · 20-11-2006, 08:44 AM

The amended diets above are still what you should be aiming towards.

I'd certainly say you NEED to drop the crisps, at least some of the bread and get more fruit and veg down you.

What kinda of bread are you eating? Dear God, don't say white...lol

Take what everyone has said and come back to us with a reviewed diet. Try and calculate the calories and the ratios if you can. Also a summary of your stats would be handy.

big ash · 20-11-2006, 09:58 PM

yea lol white whoopsie

14-11-2006, 11:06 PM	#1 (permalink)
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15-11-2006, 07:31 AM	#4 (permalink)
big UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Beer me Posts: 5,278	What are your goals? To be honest dude, it's not so good. It says in your sig that you are currently cutting, but eating crisps, sandwiches and potatos is far from ideal. Have a read of some of the posts by tinytom, pscarb and hackskii in the diet section, particularly timed carb and carb cycling. These will explain how to diet effectively. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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hackskii UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sunny Southern California U.S.A. Posts: 23,164	I cook up 6 chicken breasts on my grill on sundays. Got it down to a science. 4 minutes each side (skinless) on high and I shut it off. When they cool down I put them in baggies for my lunches. Italian sausage, same, 4 minutes and turn for 4 minutes, allllllllllllll done. I use stuff like apples, carrots, radishes, tomato's, berries for my carbs at work. Sometimes I cook up a ton of rice and put those in baggies (I have a rice cooker), when I need them I just grab them and toss them in my lunch. I am lazy and try to keep it as simple as possible. If I need more fat in my diet I take a bunch of fish oils into work. I do think whole foods are better, but I do have a shake PWO. __________________ "Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away." - George Carlin Scott To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

20-11-2006, 12:06 AM	#10 (permalink)
big ash Gym Addict Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 144	hi guys sorry but my sig is wrong im currently bulking at the moment and my 1st n last protein shakes are 50g with 68 g of carbs n the 2nd is 50g of protein and like 12 carbs.. ok well thanks guys can u give me some more info and feed back plz and ill try to fix it :lift: __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. 18years old getting fit loosing weight guna make it pro bike racer #48 yam r6

20-11-2006, 08:44 AM	#11 (permalink)
invisiblekid Hitman Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 1,536	The amended diets above are still what you should be aiming towards. I'd certainly say you NEED to drop the crisps, at least some of the bread and get more fruit and veg down you. What kinda of bread are you eating? Dear God, don't say white...lol Take what everyone has said and come back to us with a reviewed diet. Try and calculate the calories and the ratios if you can. Also a summary of your stats would be handy. __________________ Most bodybuilders are actually insane. Albert Einstein defined insanity as "Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results".

14-11-2006, 11:12 PM	#2 (permalink)
Timmy Smooth Banned Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Camden, London, via Cardiff. Posts: 2,794	What type of protein is it? If it's Whey then I'd advise that first thing in the morning for the quickest protein absorbtion to start your day. What do you intend to eat with the 4 Weetabix?

14-11-2006, 11:15 PM	#3 (permalink)
Timmy Smooth Banned Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Camden, London, via Cardiff. Posts: 2,794	You've got the protein shake after training, but what about a simple carbohydrate source to replenish Glycogen levels in your muscles? On one hand you have dedicated PWO drinks with Dextrose and the like. On the other, you could have a Lucozade or something. Hell, it's not pretty, but in emergeancies I've just had a chocolate bar if I've left my normal supps at home.

18-11-2006, 07:59 PM	#8 (permalink)
WongFuHung Martial Artist Working on Strength Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Norwich , Uk Posts: 85	Have you considered cooking up a big bathc of chicken breasts to replace some of those shakes?

20-11-2006, 09:58 PM	#12 (permalink)
big ash Gym Addict Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 144	Re: any good?? yea lol white whoopsie __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. 18years old getting fit loosing weight guna make it pro bike racer #48 yam r6