My Diet - Pants or not? - UK-Muscle Body Building Community

kevo · 14-09-2006, 11:34 AM

7.00am
Extreme protien shake and 5 eggs(one yolk 4whites) on two slices of wholemeal toast. 1000mg omega 3

10.00am
Tuna and OJ drink (one can tuna half pint OJ) and an apple

12.30pm
300g cottage cheese 6oatcakes and muller light.

4.00pm Tuna and OJ drink

7.00pm Tea usualy a chicken breast and some wholemeal pasta and 1000mg Omega 3

8.00pm Training

9.30pm (after training) PWO shake 2 scoops protein and half cup of oats

10.30pm Bed - Extreme protein shake mixed with milk.

thanks

Kev:smoke:

**big** · 14-09-2006, 11:52 AM

Looks good dude in general. Could use some veggies and more EFAs.

What are your stats and how much cals and protein are you taking in in total?

kevo · 14-09-2006, 11:59 AM

Hi Big, cheers mate. Im 5"9 around 175lbs. TBH I have not actually sat down and worked out the cals in that little lot, I will have to get that sorted and then I may have a better idea!

Ref the EFA's should I just have another couple of omega 3pills instead of the two!
And greens I hate with a passion so I am unsure how to get those down me mate!

**big** · 14-09-2006, 12:05 PM

I'd have a whole lot more than 3 pills dude! You need quite a lot of fats for ideal gains - and you want as much of that coming from good fats as possible. Fish oils are ideal and they're cheap - so downing a handful with each meal is sensible IMO.

Are all greens off? Even salad? Even greens in a stir-fry with your chicken? If you can't eat greens, make sure you're taking a couple of good multi-vits a day.

kevo · 14-09-2006, 12:18 PM

nah, not all greens mate but they would have to be stir fryed as you mentioned! Ill get smoe good multi vits in too! So how many of those 1000mg fish oil pills would you reccomend then lol it says "no more than 1 a day" on the bottle

**big** · 14-09-2006, 12:21 PM

The bottle is lying to you dude!

I'd pop at least 2-3 with every other meal given that you're eating quite a few meals lol.

**big** · 14-09-2006, 12:23 PM

Remember that 1000mg is only 1g. So each pill contains 1g of fats.

I don't know your stats, but assuming you weigh 180lbs and are "pretty" lean and fairly active, you need about 2500 cals just to maintain.... if 30% of these calories come from fats, that's 83g of fats per day.

Each pill contains only 1g.

See where I'm coming from?

IMO you should be taking in all of those eggs whole for EFAs and nutrients too.

kevo · 14-09-2006, 12:23 PM

Damn that bottle! good stuff. Cheers again Big.

kevo · 14-09-2006, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by BIG

Remember that 1000mg is only 1g. So each pill contains 1g of fats.

I don't know your stats, but assuming you weigh 180lbs and are "pretty" lean and fairly active, you need about 2500 cals just to maintain.... if 30% of these calories come from fats, that's 83g of fats per day.

Each pill contains only 1g.

See where I'm coming from?

IMO you should be taking in all of those eggs whole for EFAs and nutrients too.

whoa, when you put it like that mate thats a whole lot of pills for fats! think Im gonna have to throw in some nuts and the eggs I would eat whole, only thing Im worried about is the old cholesterol issue!

**big** · 14-09-2006, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by kevo

whoa, when you put it like that mate thats a whole lot of pills for fats! think Im gonna have to throw in some nuts and the eggs I would eat whole, only thing Im worried about is the old cholesterol issue!

Good plan

Eggs, although they have a lot of dietary cholesterol in them, don't tend to increase your BODY's cholesterol.

Body cholesterol isn't affected as much by dietary cholestoral as used to be believed.

People on keto diets (e.g. atkins) have tended to find their internal cholesterol levels DROP, despite taking in a lot more cholesterol in their diet.

Obviously that's no excuse to eat buckets of lard each day as I doubt that will work lol. But 80g or so of fats from reasonably healthy sources (eggs, nuts, some butter, some meat, plenty of fish etc) is only going to make you more healthy, not less.

kevo · 14-09-2006, 12:43 PM

Sounds like a plan. I didnt realise that about the cholesterol, I guess I got sucked in by the hype! I have cut butter out all together too so I will have a little a day now! Im off to stock up on almonds and fish oils now mate, thanks for the help

**big** · 14-09-2006, 12:45 PM

No problem dude. Remember to check your protein/cals to make sure they're about right... don't let your bodyweight change by more than about 1-2lbs/week.

Good luck and let us know how you get on

**hackskii** · 14-09-2006, 08:34 PM

Yah, defo need some more good fats in your diet.

I dont think eggs are as bad as people make them out to be.
I eat alot of eggs and my cholesterol has dropped sinse last time I checked it.
The liver makes 80% of all the cholesterol in your diet.
Eggs will raise overall cholesterol but the ratio of good to bad wont change, so there is not that much risk there.

I would choose the fruit over the juice, like you drink orange juice, just eat an orange instead.

Also 3 of your meals/protein are in the form of powders, I prefere whole foods over shakes.

I think it is a good idea to eat proteins, fats, carbs all together.

Tatyana · 14-09-2006, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by hackskii

Yah, defo need some more good fats in your diet.

I dont think eggs are as bad as people make them out to be.
I eat alot of eggs and my cholesterol has dropped sinse last time I checked it.
The liver makes 80% of all the cholesterol in your diet.
Eggs will raise overall cholesterol but the ratio of good to bad wont change, so there is not that much risk there.

I would choose the fruit over the juice, like you drink orange juice, just eat an orange instead.

Also 3 of your meals/protein are in the form of powders, I prefere whole foods over shakes.

I think it is a good idea to eat proteins, fats, carbs all together.HOLD ON HERE! Is this something new you are recommending, cause I haven't seen this one before.

Hey Scott,

So would you recommend this for a building or cutting diet?

And at what ratios.

KEVO

NO GREENS, so you don't eat any veg? No potatoes, no carrots, what?

How about fruit?

I am forming the opinion that some boys treat the BBing diet like a good excuse NOT to eat fruit and veg.

IMHO BBers need to eat MORE than your average person.

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**hackskii** · 15-09-2006, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Tatyana

Hey Scott,

So would you recommend this for a building or cutting diet?

And at what ratios.

This is a typical Zone type macro diet.
The ratio is 40/30/30 carbs/protein/fats

This diet is super solid even for the athlete.

14-09-2006, 11:34 AM	#1 (permalink)
kevo Getting HUGE! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: North Wales Posts: 1,281	My Diet - Pants or not? 7.00am Extreme protien shake and 5 eggs(one yolk 4whites) on two slices of wholemeal toast. 1000mg omega 3 10.00am Tuna and OJ drink (one can tuna half pint OJ) and an apple 12.30pm 300g cottage cheese 6oatcakes and muller light. 4.00pm Tuna and OJ drink 7.00pm Tea usualy a chicken breast and some wholemeal pasta and 1000mg Omega 3 8.00pm Training 9.30pm (after training) PWO shake 2 scoops protein and half cup of oats 10.30pm Bed - Extreme protein shake mixed with milk. thanks Kev:smoke:

14-09-2006, 11:52 AM	#2 (permalink)
big UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: The only side effect of steroids is GREATNESS Posts: 5,406	Looks good dude in general. Could use some veggies and more EFAs. What are your stats and how much cals and protein are you taking in in total? __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

14-09-2006, 12:05 PM	#4 (permalink)
big UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: The only side effect of steroids is GREATNESS Posts: 5,406	I'd have a whole lot more than 3 pills dude! You need quite a lot of fats for ideal gains - and you want as much of that coming from good fats as possible. Fish oils are ideal and they're cheap - so downing a handful with each meal is sensible IMO. Are all greens off? Even salad? Even greens in a stir-fry with your chicken? If you can't eat greens, make sure you're taking a couple of good multi-vits a day. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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14-09-2006, 12:23 PM	#7 (permalink)
big UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: The only side effect of steroids is GREATNESS Posts: 5,406	Remember that 1000mg is only 1g. So each pill contains 1g of fats. I don't know your stats, but assuming you weigh 180lbs and are "pretty" lean and fairly active, you need about 2500 cals just to maintain.... if 30% of these calories come from fats, that's 83g of fats per day. Each pill contains only 1g. See where I'm coming from? IMO you should be taking in all of those eggs whole for EFAs and nutrients too. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

14-09-2006, 11:59 AM	#3 (permalink)
kevo Getting HUGE! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: North Wales Posts: 1,281	Hi Big, cheers mate. Im 5"9 around 175lbs. TBH I have not actually sat down and worked out the cals in that little lot, I will have to get that sorted and then I may have a better idea! Ref the EFA's should I just have another couple of omega 3pills instead of the two! And greens I hate with a passion so I am unsure how to get those down me mate!

14-09-2006, 12:18 PM	#5 (permalink)
kevo Getting HUGE! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: North Wales Posts: 1,281	nah, not all greens mate but they would have to be stir fryed as you mentioned! Ill get smoe good multi vits in too! So how many of those 1000mg fish oil pills would you reccomend then lol it says "no more than 1 a day" on the bottle

14-09-2006, 12:23 PM	#8 (permalink)
kevo Getting HUGE! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: North Wales Posts: 1,281	Damn that bottle! good stuff. Cheers again Big.

14-09-2006, 12:43 PM	#11 (permalink)
kevo Getting HUGE! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: North Wales Posts: 1,281	Sounds like a plan. I didnt realise that about the cholesterol, I guess I got sucked in by the hype! I have cut butter out all together too so I will have a little a day now! Im off to stock up on almonds and fish oils now mate, thanks for the help

14-09-2006, 12:45 PM	#12 (permalink)
big UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: The only side effect of steroids is GREATNESS Posts: 5,406	No problem dude. Remember to check your protein/cals to make sure they're about right... don't let your bodyweight change by more than about 1-2lbs/week. Good luck and let us know how you get on __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

14-09-2006, 08:34 PM	#13 (permalink)
hackskii UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sunny Southern California U.S.A. Posts: 23,654	Yah, defo need some more good fats in your diet. I dont think eggs are as bad as people make them out to be. I eat alot of eggs and my cholesterol has dropped sinse last time I checked it. The liver makes 80% of all the cholesterol in your diet. Eggs will raise overall cholesterol but the ratio of good to bad wont change, so there is not that much risk there. I would choose the fruit over the juice, like you drink orange juice, just eat an orange instead. Also 3 of your meals/protein are in the form of powders, I prefere whole foods over shakes. I think it is a good idea to eat proteins, fats, carbs all together. __________________ "Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away." - George Carlin Scott To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.