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Is really this diet safe ?

People which are following Atkins diet eat large amounts of protein and fat.

Doctors from New York University wrote in The Lancet journal of a 40-year-old woman who developed a dangerous condition called ketoacidosis, a dangerous buildup of acids called ketones in the blood which can lead to patients falling into a coma.

Ketones are produced in the liver when insulin levels fall due to starvation or diabetes.

"Our patient had an underlying ketosis caused by the Atkins diet ..."

Read the entire article here.
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John

lol yes. No one is saying that you should stay on it for ever but for rapid fat loss its fine.

Then when you reach your goals, carbs should be introduced back into the diet slowly. I think there are better ways to lose weight ( carb cycling ) seems to be the way to go aswell, but i dont know enough about it to put anymore in here.

Look for Pscarb or Hackskii.

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Oh no I can see another long debate brewing here....

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Pscarb

for every study/article that says the Atkins is unsafe their are 2 that says that it is safe to use....the original Atkins diet which pushed the use of all fats was later changed to push more good fats which is wise move in my opinion...

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BodyBuilding101

Agree with the good fats. Man some people were drinking jugs of cream whilst on the atkins, def not good!

Even though short term use of atkins is ok, what about those people who are obese 300+ who follow atkins, could they be at risk because they have to be on the diet longer?

John

i dont mean to appear rude but who cares unless one of those 300lb peeps is you?

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BodyBuilding101

Nah bro aint 300lbs, just talking about the vast majaority of americans who use atkins are big.

Pscarb

yes but like i have stated their are plenty of studies and articles that have pointed out the health benefits of eating a High fat low carb diet...

there seems to be health issues with high GI carb diets than high fat diets..

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hackskii

Its safe, I saw that article last Friday on the news.
The claim was to get it into the news but at the end they said this is very uncommon and that the diet is still safe.

Alcoholics get ketoacidosis too.

Ketogenic diets have been around for longer than any other diet ever.
Many diets are designed after a ketogenic diet, even a paleolithic diet sortof aims at the hunger Gatherer end of things.

They used to treat children with ketogenic diets to treat epilepsy 100 years ago and had them on them for two years.
Still used today when they can’t use drugs alone to stop epileptic seizures. That’s right to this day medically used to treat epilepsy.

Those people that are like 400 lbs that need to lose weight with zero exercise are put on Atkins type diets that are going in for heart surgery.
I have used this diet with good success and I know many others that have used it with success as well.

I have heard all the hype over the years by the nay sayers and their rationale is unfounded and based on opinions. I have seen studies that suggest cholesterol issues reduced going on the Atkins diet. Not only that but the lowing some body weight lowers chance of high blood pressure and heart attack well over the risk of the diet.

Saying the Atkins diet is not healthy is just someone’s opinion and I wont even get into the details of dismantling the argument out of it being a shear waste of my time.

I use heavy cream in my coffee as the coffee creamers have hydrogenated oils and those are far worse than the heavy cream I put in my coffee, that stuff can kill you. I count the heavy cream in my coffee as a fat, I count the sugar as a carb and I take beef liver tablets or whey protein as a protein and call that a meal.
This can be done this way as I do eat a macrobiotic diet now days and it is lower in carbs and I am still losing weight with very good success.

Atkins was a cardiologist and he has the numbers on his own clients to prove that the diet is safe.

About the only downfall is long term use the dieter tends to hit a plateau and this can be due to Cortisol production and this is easy to combat with some Cortisol blockers added first thing in the morning and fat loss continues.
Also carb cycling will help here too.

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DaPs

It is never safe to starve your obdy of the nutrients it needs from carbs etc, but on a short term scale it couldn't really do anything to you; Apart from help you lose weight of course.

Thing is though, most people will go back to their old eating habits after and get fat again.....Never learn.

toxictoffee

even though the body doesnt need carbohydrates?
they are non essential unlinke some AAs and FAs

now DaPs, you have dug this thread up from a long way back with some pretty naive comments that are possibly fuelled be media misconceptions...so thats cool, if you have fair do's but if you really want a debate based on the facts of ketogenic diets i think you are going to end up having to back down.

sorry to say it mate but what you have stated is factually incorrect

if you are truly clued up on keto diets this will continue as a great debate, if not, perhaps have a read on the keto diet and its uses before

no flame mate but keto diets have their place in and out of BBing

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hackskii

Eskimos eat little if any carbs, they are healthy and have some of the lowest heart disease of any culture in any time.
Oh, no cavities either and no mental health issues.

You can live without carbs.

Of course for the bodybuilder carbs are a good thing for ATP fuel, and glycogen, not to mention the anabolism associated with insulin.

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Kezz

why do you feel so crap when you lower your carbs down then??

hackskii

Because the brain is the biggest glucose hog in the body and that is a source of fuel.
Once you go into ketosis you actually have more energy I have found. It takes a few days or so but once it happens I feel killer.

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Kezz

funny you should say that because since dropping my carbs slightly and raising my daily cardio sessions more , i do actually feel fantastic!!