ah24

Silentbob...thats why im more interested in mono at the mo - many more studies backing it up as opposed to CEE.

Rave...why are you waiting until after your dbol with? And remember the CEE wont work wonders, the diet has to be in check - as does water levels. But im sure you already know that.

chrisgatguis

yeah these are some of the research/reports which i had read which sort of lead to my sceptisism (sp)....

im in two minds now..

miller25

I can believe those studies. When I was using Muscle-tech CEE my sides started hurting after about week 4, so I went to my doctors and said I had kidney pains and got some blood test done. When I went back to he told me I had a high level of toxins(creatinine) in my liver enzmes and to stop using the CEE. Once I stop using them i was fine, no pain and my levels went back to normal within two weeks. I am going to do the same with the Kre-alkalyn and see how it goes. I have some mono from myprotein and have never had a problem with it but dry lips, which is probably due to not drinking enough fluid.

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Karl(Reflex)

There are no studies to back either, this is not too say that they dont work because clearly empirical evidence shows they do.

miller25

Only way to find out is to use them all, which I have tried the lot. They all work

1. Kre-alkalyn
2. Mono(plus dextrose)
3. CEE

They all work, but I suppose some brands are better than others.

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gaz 1982

ive just orderd this a few people reccomended it

miller25

Some people say that cellmass is good. I think you will like it

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ajfitness

mono all the way for me.

steve.t

i use mono by REFLEX. seems good but never used anything else so got nothing to compare it with. it was recomended to me and ive stuck with it.

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andr0lic

Good choice. Cell-mass does substantially more for you than no-x or nitrix IMO.




I have used creatine since back in the baby days of cell-tech, and I find that if i take enough dextrose with the mono after a work out, it pumps me up just fine.

With that being said, I opt for CEE as its much more versatile and I feel I absorb it much better than mono. Plus I dont need to spike my insulin for sufficient tranport. 3 grams of CEE a day serves me well, and no GI distress, whereas with mono, I feel its more touch and go, day to day, as sometimes it would have me on the toilet making mud pies.


-Andy

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bigden

i find CEE to be that bit better than mono for me, although i made ok strength gains on mono it never really was that gud for me so i switched to CEE to see if it was any gud and it was gave me a ton more energy and alot more strength than mono did

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bow chika wow

I use CEE at the mo - but scifits kre -alkalyne is cool.

Coop

I'm using Kre-alkyln atm, i will be sticking with it. The best i have used!!

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stow

I've used creatine on and off for about 12 years.
First used it at University, ended up writing a research paper on it and proving scientifically that it works. That was all mono in those days and really before it went big. (Think £25 for 100g!!!!)
I'm still in touch occasionally with Paul Greenhaff at Nottingham Uni still, this guy is pretty much the world leader in Creatine research, as you'll see if you do any journal searches on the stuff. Just out of interest and fair play to the guy, he replies to me emails!!!
Now I use CEE from CNP, I respond best to it, hold very little water and don't get any digestive discomfort.
But its something I treat with care, I've had the raised creatinine levels (not so much a liver measure, its a kidney indicator but shows in Liver Function Tests), but cycling it and drinking plenty of water definitely helps and gets better results.

Creatine combined with glutamine is comparable to some short weak courses IMO. With less water retention and less likelihood to lose the whole lot at the end of it.
Definitely interested in people's expereinces of CEE vs Mono.

STOW

Coop

Stow, Has you contact at Uni done any testing on Kre alkalyn? i would be very interested in his conclusions.

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