steve.t

just been to my local sups store and am bewildered by the differant sorts of sups. creatine is available in caps of 700mg and as a powder. does one have an advantage over the other or is it that it tastes so bad they make it in caps for the wusses? Is 700mg the recomended dose? and if so how many per day? Also whey protein seems to have so many varieties aswell!! which is best and how much per dose/day? all advice welcome as ive come home with nothing and will go back once ive got info from you guys. thanks in advance.

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Powder is better...try myprotein.co.uk..... CEE is very good and doesnt need a loading phase or simple sugars to help the uptake, it taste's pretty bad so take it with some Fruit juice... 3g 30mins before and 3g straight after workout is fine!!!

Also if you purchase Creatine drink plenty of water!!

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steve.t

thanks for the advice shorty, was starting to think id asked such a stupid question that no one was going to answer. keep seeing posts that recomend 200g of protein a day or there abouts. how do you know how much is in a steak or chicken as im asuming that you want as much as possible from food rather than sups?

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Ziricote

Typically you'll get 20-30g of protein per 100g meat but some meats contain even less. At the end of the day you have to go by what the packaging says.

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steve.t

cheers. im trying to follow Bigs training schedule of training only 2 days per week to see how it goes. what dose/grams of protein should i be aiming for each day and is it the same every day or higher on training days?

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Go for 1g of protein for every lbs that you weigh or 2xprotein for every kilo that you weigh. It doesnt really matter whether its a training day or not, just keep the protein income coming in.

Also, try not to eat more than 30g of protein per hour as the body can only digest 30g protein per hour approx , so split up your protein intakes into 6 meals or different times during the day.

Train 2 days per week.....never heard of that one before.

mickus

steve.t your display pic is horrific lad please change it before i blow my oats all over my pc lmfao

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Shorty how much commission do MyProtein give you and why is powder better?

Our Kr-Evolution comes in caps, mixing creatine in anything allows the conversion to creatinine to begin, worse with fruit juice because of the citric acid. Kr-Evolution is pH buffered and doesn't convert into creatinine unlike monohydrate, which is what ALL creatine products start out as.

CEE was found in tests to have already been converted into creatinine during the esterification process of mixing with ethanol.

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Karl(Reflex)

Dougie, is there any studies on Kre-Evolution that is not been funded by the patent holders. (this is a genuine question and not trying to back you into a corner.)

shorty

i get a big bag of dirty money from the every time i mention there products!!

no need to be nasty man...just giving someone a bit of advice, through my personal use of myprotein's products, whether or not they take my advice is upto them

on the subject of pill's vs powder in my experience i found powder better and alot cheaper and lasts longer, depending on the quantity bought!

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Karl, I have copies of a few studies which were idependantly carried out but were funded by the patent holder and I have a copy of one done by another company who slate the product (they don't sell Kre-Alkalyn but do sell CEE), I think the professor who did the study was the researcher for the company who funded it though so possibly not the most neutral study.

If the study is done in the appropriate manner it wont matter who funded it. We just did an 18 month study on our Build & Recover at Heriot Watt Uni in Edinburgh and I could not have influenced the results no matter how hard I tried as I never knew who any of the test subjects were or when the tests were taking place. We weren't even allowed to supply the products in unlabelled tubs (the subjects could have gone into a supp shop and thought they were Reflex!) so the test cases could not work out what they were getting.

I don't think anyone in the medical or scientific world will be overly keen to test yet another creatine derivative or possibly not able to get funding unless from someone who could benefit if the study goes well, so we're left with the patent holder.

I'm a cynic and tested this on our own athletes and select sportspeople I know and whose opinions I value and EVERYONE was very impressed with the results they had so we added it to our range.

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We don't give him anything he is obviously a happy customer!

As stated we stock Creapure and CEE. Creapure is the best form of monohydrate and the user feedback on CEE is second to none.

We have been approached to stock Kre-Alkalyn Creatine in bulk form so drop us a line if this is something you want.

Thanks

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Karl(Reflex)

I certainly believe that Kre-alk would be far better than CEE and most other creatines out there. I guess my question would be is Kre-Alk better than Mono, for that instance i am not convienced (didnt think it would be worse, but yeild similar results). However i will say that its probably the only form i havent tried as of yet and may do some day.

Dougie, have you read the abstract from the recent Dr Tallon study? Any thoughts?

(just want to make everyone aware, i am not trying to be negative towards Extreme and there choice of creatine. I have alot of respect for Extreme and they way they approach their business)

Conrad

agree with shorty 100%. Good post lad.
One thing that isnt clear with Creatine is when to take it. Obviously pre and post workout but some leave it at that, some also take it upon waking and some again before bed. Just wanted to see what MP and extreme and any other brand thought about this. Currently i take 5g CEE before and 5g after and then 3g with Glutamine upon waking before am cardio.

shorty

conrad....i take cee 3g pre and 3g post workout, then on non workout days i like to take 3g in the morning and 3g at about 5pm....

altho i know some people dont take it on non training days, and some people may take it once on non training days... its all trial and error mate and what works best for you, but personally i take it twice a day for 2 weeks and take 1 week off and repeat!

thanks for the kind words too.

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