Da Goon

Is maltodextrin the best form of complex carb you can have?

ParaManiac

what do you intend using it for?

thestudbeast

No.

It's processed and chemicaly altered
Has a high GI
Has no place in a BB diet.

DaPs

Are you joking or what?

thestudbeast

No jokes from me if I'm who your talking too.

NeilpWest

Oh crap i just bought a bag from adonis because i tought it was pure form like the protein didnt think it was bad for you

DaPs

Nothing wrong with it. It is a good carb to restore energy in your body after workout.

Bloke down the gym said glycogen? i think it's called was better though.

thestudbeast

TBH Daps that is it's only use and not his original question.

To clarify this malto is dexrtose that has been altered to make it a complex carb. The body still treats it the same way as sugar. Now if you beleive the whole need for a massive post workout insulin jump this or dextrose is what you'll be after. Eating malto any other time is much like eating sugary candy.

Post workout your body is already more sensitive to insulin and so a low GI carb such as oats and a protein powder seem to provide simmilar results in most to dextrose and better results in those that are carb sensitive.

Both Dextrose and Malto are processed foods and so by definition junk. As you've bought it already I'd go a 50/50 mix of this and oat powder post workout, this will be fine unless your carb sensitive.

NeilpWest

Humm ok cheers for that i didnt know this i assumed it was pure so unaltered, fancied a changed from my normal tub or protein with all the sweetners and crap in them. Does the same go for the protein 82 and 97 or are they good?

thestudbeast

They are both top quality proteins but will effect insulin levels like any other whey protein powder. Top marks to adonis to bringing whey protein prices back down.

Edit: if you answer Para's original question of what you want to use the carb source for I'm sure you'll get some uses for the product and alternatives.

tempbrit

I can't say that I agree with you. I would say that PWO dex/malt mix along with protein is tough to beat. Especially when compared to low GI carbs like oats.

What you are proposing is quite contradictory to well established bodybuilding staples.

I don't disagree with the fact that you are basically pouring sugar candy down your throat, but there is a reason for it.

thestudbeast

There are two sides of this arguement and they have been played out on many BB boards over and over if you do some research you'll be able to make an informed opinion on which side of the fence you sit on.

mars1960

Ok guys, you might find this clarifies things.

WHAT IS MALTODEXTRIN?
Maltodextrin is a form of sugar. It is a actually a hydrolysate of starch, generally from potato starch, and is used in many energy boosting products, meal replacements, weight gainers and often as a type of filler in liquid sports drinks. Being an man made, altered form of sugar, it is actually quite a complex molecule, unlike simple sugars such as dextrose. Rated against the glycemic index maltodextrin shows a much slower release than typical sugar into the blood stream as glucose and so makes it a perfect choice for sustained liquid energy. In simple terms, all ingested carbohydrate enters our blood stream as glucose, where it is either used for energy, stored as glycogen in muscle cells or converted into triglycerides and stored as body fat. Only so much energy can be used up in a certain unit of time and only so much glucose can be stored within muscle cells until they are full. And so if a carbohydrate enters our system very fast and in a large quantity, our bodies release insulin to deposit the excess energy as stored fat to be used at a later time. If we can slow the release of the carbohydrate down this makes it much easier for the body to deal with, having small regular releases of copable amounts of glucose entering the system over a period of time. This stabilizes our energy levels, blood sugar levels and lowers the risk of gaining body fat. Typically a slow releasing carbohydrate such as maltodextrin can sustain energy release for a number of hours, fueling good workouts and feelings of fullness and good positive energy. This is why maltodextrin, being liquid, is clearly a better choice for the majority of good sports supplements rather than fast releasing high glycemic carbohydrates often found in cheap weight gainers or poorly processed proteins. The exception to this is often in good creatine transport systems where the main ingredient is dextose a fast release carbohydrate, however the reason for this is to force creatine into the muscle cell as fast as possible. Of course these type of drinks should generally be avoided if the goal is to reduce bodyfat levels.

NeilpWest

Yeah so what thestudbeast says about taking after a workout is right it will do you good then but any other time maybe not as it could be stored as fat

mars1960

This is what i used to carb load pre workout, (in the other thread).
And i certainly didn't gain any fat.