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Old 29-09-2007, 08:02 PM   #16 (permalink)
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maltodextrin has a high GI.....so what...so do any foods

now if its rubbish why do people rave about pro mass by chemical nutrition? why do people use met rx MRPs?

everything has its place and its

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overall insulin response of meal
size and timing of the meal in relation to the above
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If you take malto or dextrose pre or during it is unlikely to make you fat as weight training supresses insulin response. It would be good if it did realease insulin during the work out as it's anti catabolic however this would probably make you drowsy and definatly lower any GH response you'd get from the workout.

Work out nutrition is way over played.

Mars that info on malto is out dated and wrong, sorry bro search again.
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Fella's,please dont turn this into PWO carb debate!

The subject has been debated to death and the only outcome is that some favour fast carbs and others slow dependant on numerous factors.

If Da Goon answers my original question then maybe he can be advised accordingly as to its approrpriate/recommended useage.
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If you take malto or dextrose pre or during it is unlikely to make you fat as weight training supresses insulin response. It would be good if it did realease insulin during the work out as it's anti catabolic however this would probably make you drowsy and definatly lower any GH response you'd get from the workout.

Work out nutrition is way over played.

Mars that info on malto is out dated and wrong, sorry bro search again.
Im not really up on the above, i prefer to kiss.
It wont make me fat simply because ill use up the energy.
It what way is the article wrong. maltodextrin and its derivatives haven't changed, as far as im aware.
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Old 29-09-2007, 08:14 PM   #20 (permalink)
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the article is garbage and is likely to be a company trying to market it, not a study of note
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I would never use Malto in anything other than a pre or post workout. I agree, used anyother time would be ridiculous.

I have used Malto for 4+ years in PWO and have never gone above 10%bf and usually stayed right around 8%.

I definately feel as though my gains have been better than prior to the use of Malto.
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Old 29-09-2007, 08:22 PM   #22 (permalink)
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why not email that to the people behind chemical nutrition, met rx and so on and so on?
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In that case tt, i respect your opinion, therefore ill be doing more research.
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Would it be better utilised if it was used both before and after workout, rather than just one or the other?
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In that case tt, i respect your opinion, therefore ill be doing more research.
what is being stated is not the case

the insulin response caused by maltodextrin is a large one. the hydrogen bonds are weak and whilst its a complex carb it acts in a similar manner to dextrose

but at the end of the day its about the insulin response of the meal, not the GI of one component
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Oh sorry i spoke.
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why have you posted in that manner? :confused:

i have simply stated the piece posted onmaltodextrin is not correct, thats not a dig on you mate :confused:
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daps. i use it at 50g +50g whey PWO.
PS tt i think you mis interpreted what iwas saying,I was bowing to your greater knowledge.
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what is being stated is not the case

the insulin response caused by maltodextrin is a large one. the hydrogen bonds are weak and whilst its a complex carb it acts in a similar manner to dextrose

but at the end of the day its about the insulin response of the meal, not the GI of one component

So what do you do PWO? Just Dextrose?
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PWO

it matters not TBH between malto and dextrose, the end result is in effect the same, insulin reponse just via different mechanisms

at the end of the day the difference is minimal
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