Karl(Reflex)

Basically i hurt my back 5 months ago deadlifting. Was my first warm up set and got a nice little click in my lower back. Naturally i stopped there.

Progressively over the last few months it has got worse, to the point where i havent lifted any weights for 4 months.

In that period to now i have seen an Osteopath, Chiropractor and a physio.

Whilst my back does feel better it is no where near being able to get back to the gym or playing rugby.

Whats my next step? Am i just going to have to deal with having back pain?

Any suggestions!

Johnny bravo

I would like an answer to this as well mate did pretty much the same thing and visited the same people having acupuncture on the weekend to see if this works now

crazycacti

chances are you rounded your back and didn't squat down to the bar enough...

i've done that before on a warm up set and by christ it hurt...

my chiropractor told me that the reason i was getting discomfort in my lower back and down my leg was due to my glute moving slightly up and putting pressure where it wasn't wanted...

every time he did my back a week later the work would be undone by the glute moving upwards slightly...

i sacked this and concentrated on 'ATF' squats - and i mean ass to floor! it stretched out the glute and hamstring...

i also addded SLDLs (done properly!) against the advice of my chiropractor and my back has had no pain since (this was about a year ago)

i'd think about exercises that stretch out the posterior chain ;)

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Karl(Reflex)

I had it on monday night and several times before. Its very good but TBH hasnt worked to well on my back!

Karl(Reflex)

I used to squat ASF but about 18months ago a did my back is as well. So changed by squatting style to just below parell and it feels alot safer.

Johnny bravo

what posterior exercises are there mate, I can't squat to much pain even with no weight I can't put hardly any pressure on my one side.

crazycacti

if it is that bad bud... i would not even think about lifting... doctor and specialist... maybe surgery - you never know...

another thing to think about when you get back lifting though is core balance...

perhaps you abs are not in balance with the posterior chain? an imbalance is why many people get injuries... take the shoulder for example... because of pressing many peoples front delt outways their rear delt by a mile interms of strength and mass - causing a lot of shoulder problems as well as posture porblems too...

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Karl(Reflex)

Have been working hard on Core stability over the last month.

I asked the same question on another forum and someone suggested an Inversion table. I have never really seen these before (a table that turns you upside down) has anybody used one of these before?

crazycacti

not sure how that would help... but i always after every session hnag upside down on some thing just to relax the muscles around the spine and let it just have a break...

'chef x' recommended this and it does help ;)

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invisiblekid

Did you also get a pain around your groin? This sounds pretty much identical to what I did. Also did it deadlifting. I'm 99% certain it was due to form. Squatting down and hugging my knees helps as well as squatting with weight. Laying down and pulling your knees up slightly also works.

How long did it take to heal? Did you take anything for it? I've had mine roughly 4-5 months. It's painful when I'm sat for a long peroid. I've seen a Chrioprator a few times and have had some re-adjustment done.

A point on the core stability - this would help prevent future injury, not really cure a current injury. Injuries of this nature are caused by poor form or an imbalance. Core stability would, in theory, even out that imbalance.

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crazycacti

sounds bang on what i did...

i also found it painful sitting on soft sofas and the like and spent maybe 3 monthe sitting on a little hard wooden stool in the living room...

i worked on flexibility and once i was there with it - adding little amounts of weight to the bar...

i can now to SLDLs with 160kg for 10 with a good ROM and no pain apart from the pump in my lower back and hams it gives...

i was in pain for about 6months ish with it i reckon - all is good now though

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invisiblekid

Cacti, I went to see my Chiro with the info that you gave me in this thread - she said that the glute is certainly the reason for the pain and she tried some different adjustments. Seems to have worked a little - so thanks for that.

Did you get to the bottom (forgive the pun :P) of what was actually causing your pain? My Chiro suggested my ACL reconstruction in my right knee or my Perthes disease in my left hip caused an imbalance which caused the initial injury - but they can't find out why it hasn't healed yet.

Did you take anytime off at all to cure yours?

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crazycacti

didn't get to the bottom of my pain at all unfortunately...

i took a little time off but it was getting more flexiblity that made it subside...

i was sure mine was the glute pressing on a nerve when it shifted - so i corrected it myself by stretching out my lower back, glutes and hamstrings as much as possible and quite often...

even now if i miss a day of squating i kind of get that pain back now - just not as bad...

your hip and knee things would contribute greatly i reckon since it would mean there would be a slight inclination for the spine to go one way or another since your legs might not be the same length (not many peoples are ;))...

the mix of the work the chiro is doing in correcting the spine and yourself gaining more flexibilty (ie. stopping the glute moving so the spinal correction has more chance of staying where it should be) did the trick for me

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Johnny bravo

hi guys I've seen the chiro a few times now don't seem to be working... I have had 3 sessions of acupunture now the back seems good but the pain seems to be in my glute not my back as first thought I think i need to stretch it out properly it feels as though I've pulled a muscle in my ass

invisiblekid

Sounds very similar to what myself and cacti did.

I've got some very good stretches to do which I got from my chiro. I'll get them scanned in and post them up when I get chance.

Mine - touch wood - is starting to settle down after 5 months of pain.

I'll reply when I get home in more detail.
Chiro's wont get rid of the pain, but will get rid of the imbalance that caused the injury. £25-£30 per month is well worth it.

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