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JFallon · 31-07-2006, 07:06 PM

I have just had to abort tonights workout. My first excercise as always on Mondays is straight leg deadlifts. Until today I have always done them using DBs, but today I changed to a barbell (using the same amount of weight). The first set was fine, but on the second I felt a sharp sudden pain in my lower back and I cannot put any weight at all on my right leg because when I try it hurts like hell on the right side of my lower back.
Is this muscle or nerve damage, and should I put an ice pack on it immediately?
Could switching to a barbell have anything to do with it.
Thank you.

crazycacti · 31-07-2006, 07:20 PM

sounds like to hit the sciatic nerve a bit...

a lot of people's form with SLDLs is appaling imo, and yours might be a little off...

you really have to stick your chest out and look up - this gives you the natural arch in your back, if you let this go your asking for trouble...

far too many people arch their back the wrong way with this exercise and i squeem whenever any one does this

most people when they are doing this exercise will be no-where near the floor with their weights... ;)

JFallon · 31-07-2006, 07:49 PM

Will ice do any good?
Also will I be ok to do bench presses, triceps, and biceps while it heals? Or do I have to stop lifting for a week or so.
BTW I appreciate your tip about form, something tells me I'll remember it from now on!!!

crazycacti · 31-07-2006, 08:12 PM

i'd take a week completely off and see how it is in 4/5 days imo...

may be a doc/chiropractor trip depending on how bad it is...

**hackskii** · 31-07-2006, 08:20 PM

Ice yes, it is the best natural anti-imflammatory there is.

Sounds like your back was out a bit before you started the SLDL.
A chiropractor would probably be a good thing.

**Peg** · 31-07-2006, 09:12 PM

I had muscular pain once so bad that all I could do was crawl to move anywhere.

You need to check to make sure it's not a slipped disc or a serious thing.

If it is only muscle the following worked for me:

Take in morning, afternoon and evening:
2000 mg Calcium
1000 mg Magnesium
800 IU Vitamin E
2000 mg Vitamin C
protein shake including 1/4 C wheat germ.
2 hard boiled eggs if you do not have eggs in your protein shake.

Take in morning and in the evening:
One complete high potency multivitamin.

Follow this until pain subsides but no more than 3 days.
Then reduce the vitamins to 2X a day for one week
Then reduce the vitamins to your normal dosage.

I was able to walk after the 2nd day and fully recovered after a week.
BUT that was from a muscular injury.

Find out what your injury is from the doctor.
Ice is always good for starters.
Definitely don't work-out for a week other than very light stretches.

JFallon · 31-07-2006, 10:40 PM

Christ, I'm hoping to God its a muscle, not a nerve.
I don't know if this is a clue as to which it is, but the pain is on the right hand side, not in the centre where the spine is, so I doubt its a disc, and its right at the bottom of the back, it feels like its in the hip. I can stand on my left leg no problem ,its only when I put weight on the right leg that it hurts. So it definately is a right sided problem. Does this sound like its more likely to be muscle not nerve?

crazycacti · 31-07-2006, 11:07 PM

if it shoots down the leg towards the calf its prob nerve - it its centralised in one are, prob not...

i buggered my back deadlifting prob 2 years ago now...

doesn't hurt normally even when i'm lifting my heaviest deads and squats... it does hurt after about 60miles on the bike though - shoots through my glute, down my hamstring and through my calf in my right leg...

it does sometimes hurt when i take time off from the gym... the stretching of the hams after some squats and deads though, i find actually help... a lot

JFallon · 01-08-2006, 12:36 AM

The pain is in one area, so hopefully its just a muscle injury. It has got worse in the last three hours, decreasing mobility a lot, is this typical of a back muscle injury?
Thanks for the help, and the hope.

**Peg** · 01-08-2006, 10:38 AM

I would go to the doc's and have it checked out.

I did lose my mobility for a bit.

You can check out this site for possible information.
exercises for back pain.

If it was me, I'd take the vitamins, go to the doctor, and then stretch the muscles slowly ( per link - once you know from doctor what it is) as the pain will allow. Don't over do it.

colrob1 · 04-08-2006, 09:28 AM

go to see a physio or a chiro now!dont even contemplate training if you are in pain.the inflamation has to go down for you to know what you have actually injured .im currently waiting for disc surgery at this moment .i have pain in the hip glute an calf .disc compressing the sciatic nerve at L5.from what ive been told by the chiro and physio is that the sooner you see them the outcome is better.spend £30 and seek proper advice. my doc told me for 4 months there was nothing wrong with me and now im in consatnt pain awaiting surgery!

31-07-2006, 07:06 PM	#1 (permalink)
JFallon Newbie Trainer Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 29	Huer my back, need advice? I have just had to abort tonights workout. My first excercise as always on Mondays is straight leg deadlifts. Until today I have always done them using DBs, but today I changed to a barbell (using the same amount of weight). The first set was fine, but on the second I felt a sharp sudden pain in my lower back and I cannot put any weight at all on my right leg because when I try it hurts like hell on the right side of my lower back. Is this muscle or nerve damage, and should I put an ice pack on it immediately? Could switching to a barbell have anything to do with it. Thank you.

31-07-2006, 07:20 PM	#2 (permalink)
crazycacti Fat and bulking... Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Isle of Man/Newcastle Posts: 1,417	sounds like to hit the sciatic nerve a bit... a lot of people's form with SLDLs is appaling imo, and yours might be a little off... you really have to stick your chest out and look up - this gives you the natural arch in your back, if you let this go your asking for trouble... far too many people arch their back the wrong way with this exercise and i squeem whenever any one does this most people when they are doing this exercise will be no-where near the floor with their weights... ;) __________________ Insulin Spikes? Glycemic Index? Just ask Timmy Smooth... 'Well I've just downed 4 Iceland sausage rolls and my arms are shaking like an epilectic on a bucking bronco.'

31-07-2006, 08:12 PM	#4 (permalink)
crazycacti Fat and bulking... Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Isle of Man/Newcastle Posts: 1,417	i'd take a week completely off and see how it is in 4/5 days imo... may be a doc/chiropractor trip depending on how bad it is... __________________ Insulin Spikes? Glycemic Index? Just ask Timmy Smooth... 'Well I've just downed 4 Iceland sausage rolls and my arms are shaking like an epilectic on a bucking bronco.'

31-07-2006, 08:20 PM	#5 (permalink)
hackskii Super Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sunny Southern California U.S.A. Posts: 22,517	Ice yes, it is the best natural anti-imflammatory there is. Sounds like your back was out a bit before you started the SLDL. A chiropractor would probably be a good thing. __________________ "Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away." - George Carlin Scott To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

31-07-2006, 09:12 PM	#6 (permalink)
Peg Super Moderator Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 1,468	I had muscular pain once so bad that all I could do was crawl to move anywhere. You need to check to make sure it's not a slipped disc or a serious thing. If it is only muscle the following worked for me: Take in morning, afternoon and evening: 2000 mg Calcium 1000 mg Magnesium 800 IU Vitamin E 2000 mg Vitamin C protein shake including 1/4 C wheat germ. 2 hard boiled eggs if you do not have eggs in your protein shake. Take in morning and in the evening: One complete high potency multivitamin. Follow this until pain subsides but no more than 3 days. Then reduce the vitamins to 2X a day for one week Then reduce the vitamins to your normal dosage. I was able to walk after the 2nd day and fully recovered after a week. BUT that was from a muscular injury. Find out what your injury is from the doctor. Ice is always good for starters. Definitely don't work-out for a week other than very light stretches. __________________ "21st century man is not conquered by guns, nor by oppression, but by seduction." "Pride to the human heart is like lard to the pig." Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn "The best punch is the one that is both first, last, and ends the fight." Last edited by Peg; 31-07-2006 at 09:14 PM.

31-07-2006, 07:49 PM	#3 (permalink)
JFallon Newbie Trainer Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 29	Will ice do any good? Also will I be ok to do bench presses, triceps, and biceps while it heals? Or do I have to stop lifting for a week or so. BTW I appreciate your tip about form, something tells me I'll remember it from now on!!!

31-07-2006, 10:40 PM	#7 (permalink)
JFallon Newbie Trainer Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 29	Christ, I'm hoping to God its a muscle, not a nerve. I don't know if this is a clue as to which it is, but the pain is on the right hand side, not in the centre where the spine is, so I doubt its a disc, and its right at the bottom of the back, it feels like its in the hip. I can stand on my left leg no problem ,its only when I put weight on the right leg that it hurts. So it definately is a right sided problem. Does this sound like its more likely to be muscle not nerve?

31-07-2006, 11:07 PM	#8 (permalink)
crazycacti Fat and bulking... Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Isle of Man/Newcastle Posts: 1,417	if it shoots down the leg towards the calf its prob nerve - it its centralised in one are, prob not... i buggered my back deadlifting prob 2 years ago now... doesn't hurt normally even when i'm lifting my heaviest deads and squats... it does hurt after about 60miles on the bike though - shoots through my glute, down my hamstring and through my calf in my right leg... it does sometimes hurt when i take time off from the gym... the stretching of the hams after some squats and deads though, i find actually help... a lot __________________ Insulin Spikes? Glycemic Index? Just ask Timmy Smooth... 'Well I've just downed 4 Iceland sausage rolls and my arms are shaking like an epilectic on a bucking bronco.'

01-08-2006, 12:36 AM	#9 (permalink)
JFallon Newbie Trainer Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 29	The pain is in one area, so hopefully its just a muscle injury. It has got worse in the last three hours, decreasing mobility a lot, is this typical of a back muscle injury? Thanks for the help, and the hope.

01-08-2006, 10:38 AM	#10 (permalink)
Peg Super Moderator Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 1,468	I would go to the doc's and have it checked out. I did lose my mobility for a bit. You can check out this site for possible information. exercises for back pain. If it was me, I'd take the vitamins, go to the doctor, and then stretch the muscles slowly ( per link - once you know from doctor what it is) as the pain will allow. Don't over do it. __________________ "21st century man is not conquered by guns, nor by oppression, but by seduction." "Pride to the human heart is like lard to the pig." Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn "The best punch is the one that is both first, last, and ends the fight."

04-08-2006, 09:28 AM	#11 (permalink)
colrob1 Gym Addict Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 119	go to see a physio or a chiro now!dont even contemplate training if you are in pain.the inflamation has to go down for you to know what you have actually injured .im currently waiting for disc surgery at this moment .i have pain in the hip glute an calf .disc compressing the sciatic nerve at L5.from what ive been told by the chiro and physio is that the sooner you see them the outcome is better.spend £30 and seek proper advice. my doc told me for 4 months there was nothing wrong with me and now im in consatnt pain awaiting surgery!