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chump1976 · 24-02-2006, 07:06 PM

was in the gym today doing triceps levers and all of a sudden got sharp pains in my elbows .so stopped them then went onto shoulder presses and same again sharp pain in the carlidge area near the tricep.what should i do ??? drop weight down for a bit?? any help would be great. cheers john

meera · 24-02-2006, 08:16 PM

REST REST REST!!! I can't stress the need to rest an injured joint my friend! I had that too doing Tricep (behind the neck) presses with a DB a few years back. That injury went on and on and I had to wear an elbow support whenever I trained any part of my arms. It is not pretty at all.

Take some Glucosamine Choindroitin and rest the joint.

Best wishes on a speedy recovery my friend.

**hackskii** · 24-02-2006, 09:38 PM

A natural anti-inflammatory like fish oils will do nicely too.

Like Meera said rest.
Ice is the worlds best natural anti-inflammatory too. 20 on 20 off.
Heat after 10 minutes creates inflammation.

chump1976 · 25-02-2006, 12:03 AM

thanks for your advice lads
i am taking 1000mg of fish oil a day with garlic and 1000mg vit c is this enough ??
cheers john

**hackskii** · 25-02-2006, 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chump1976

thanks for your advice lads
i am taking 1000mg of fish oil a day with garlic and 1000mg vit c is this enough ??
cheers john

Not even close.
For fish oils to be effective you will have to take much more than that.
For them to be really effective it is around 20 1000mg a day.
Sorry but this is the dose for the minimum for inflammation.

Ginger is good too.

bdc · 25-02-2006, 07:55 PM

hackskii- do you know anything to beat sore throats? for the past couple of days it feels like i have swallowed glass. tried honey and lemon and throat lozenges with and without local anaesthetic and anti-bacterial agents. i dont want you to guess at things, if you look on the internet people rattle of dozens of possible remedies, i want one that works!

trickymicky69 · 25-02-2006, 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bdc

hackskii- do you know anything to beat sore throats? for the past couple of days it feels like i have swallowed glass. tried honey and lemon and throat lozenges with and without local anaesthetic and anti-bacterial agents. i dont want you to guess at things, if you look on the internet people rattle of dozens of possible remedies, i want one that works!

marshmallow capsules are proven to work for a sore throat.

**hackskii** · 25-02-2006, 08:15 PM

Well, just warm salt water will do the best of anything.

Some goldenseal and garlic along with some Vitamin C and zinc for the immune system.

Just warm salt water and as hot as you can stand it to gargle with.
All the other stuff is just trash.
Nature works best here.

chloraseptic spray for pain works well, nubs that stuff killer.

bdc · 25-02-2006, 08:24 PM

marshmallow capsules... funnily enough i have a fresh tub sitting in my back pocket for an occasion such as this lol

i will go for the salt water thing now, if my throat still feels sore when i get back i am going to hunt you both down.

garlic and vitamin c i have gone for so far, ran out of orange juice now though, these and other essentials are covered in my multi vit but as with most products- percentage absorbed in the body isnt great so i have no idea how much is working and how much is getting excreted

**hackskii** · 25-02-2006, 09:09 PM

Just do the old folklore medicine of warm salt water gargle, nothing better.

Daddy says now do what I say right now

Good luck Son!

bdc · 25-02-2006, 09:27 PM

it did nothing, all respect i had for you was destroyed when you picked my hopes up of a quick recovery and shattered them again in one swoop, i hate you.

**hackskii** · 25-02-2006, 09:53 PM

Salt is natures healer, works for manythings including athletes foot.
It takes time, does nothing for pain.
Healing is natures time, not yours.

bdc · 25-02-2006, 09:59 PM

when its only the pain i notice it would be that i wish to heal! the numbing throat spray i have doesnt work anymore, i guess its been sitting there too long but all dates have been rubbed off

trickymicky69 · 26-02-2006, 01:41 AM

marshmallow

What Is It?
Health Benefits
Dosage Information
Guidelines for Use
General Interaction
Possible Side Effects
Cautions

What Is It?

Since ancient times, Europeans have relied on the root of the marshmallow plant (Althea officinalis) to concoct cough and sore throat remedies. Interestingly, the "Althea" in the herb's botanical name comes from the Greek word for "heal" or "cure." And the plant's common name--marshmallow--comes from the habitat that it favors: marshes and other damp environments.

Marshmallow is native to Europe and western Asia. It can also be found in North America, particularly in salt marshes along the eastern seaboard. In addition to its root, marshmallow's velvety leaves and pale pink or white flowers are occasionally used in healing as well.

Interestingly, historians believe that parts of the marshmallow plant were once used to fill hungry stomachs during famines. And in 19th-century America, children with sore throats were given a hardened disk made of whipped marshmallow root juices, sugar, and egg whites to suck on. Despite the name, marshmallow treats roasted over campfires today don't contain any part of the plant.

Health Benefits

The key ingredient in marshmallow root and leaf is mucilage, a substance that becomes gooey and gel-like when combined with a liquid. This quality has been put to good use, both in internal and external forms, to soothe and protect inflamed mucous membranes and other tissues.

Cooled marshmallow root tea has been used to soothe inflamed skin or mouth irritations; it can also be used as a gargle. A compress, poultice, or paste made from the root works well as an emollient for skin irritations and wounds.

Marshmallow contains rich stores of various vitamins and minerals, including key immune-system boosters such as vitamins A and C.

Specifically, marshmallow may help to:

# Soothe a sore throat and suppress a cough. Few herbal remedies have been used for as many centuries--with such great effectiveness--as marshmallow for irritated throat and cough. Try sipping a tea made with the roots or leaves of marshmallow for quelling a sore throat or dry, irritating cough. Even Germany's highly critical Commission E gives high approval marks for these uses.

# Lessen heartburn and intestinal conditions, such as ulcers, irritable bowel syndrome, and constipation. The root of the marshmallow plant is particularly rich in mucilage and gets extremely gooey when wet. This quality makes it particularly valuable for coating and protecting irritated mucous membranes in the mouth, throat, and gastrointestinal tract. British health authorities even consider marshmallow root preparations safe and effective for soothing ulcers along the digestive tract.

Dosage Information

# For cough: Add 1 teaspoon of liquid extract to 1 cup (8 ounces) of very warm water 3 times a day. Alternatively, drink 1 cup of marshmallow tea (or a marshmallow-containing herbal cough tea) up to 3 times a day as needed.

# For sore throat: As a tea, use 1 tablespoon of dried herb per 8-ounce cup of very warm water. Alternatively, mix 1 tablespoon of liquid extract in 8 ounces of very warm water. Drink up to 3 cups daily.

# For heartburn or other stomach upset: Drink 1 cup of tea as needed or add 1 teaspoon of liquid extract to 8 ounces of water, and sip 4 times a day.

Guidelines for Use

# Many people use marshmallow tea for healing. It's important to know the proper brewing method: Use 1 to 2 teaspoons of the dried root (or 1 teaspoon of the dried leaf) for each 8 ounces of water.

# While very hot (not boiling) water can be poured over the material, the ideal way to make the tea and retain the key ingredients is to use cold water and then gently warm the liquid before drinking. Steep the tea for 5 minutes, and then strain.

# For external use, add just enough water to the chopped root to make a paste.

General Interaction

# Marshmallow may delay the absorption of other drugs when taken at the same time.

# According to studies in mice, marshmallow can lower blood sugar levels. It's not clear whether this happens in humans, but it may interfere with treatments for lowering blood sugar, such as insulin. If you have diabetes, consult your doctor before taking marshmallow and monitor your blood sugar levels closely.

Possible Side Effects

# There are no known side effects associated with marshmallow.

Cautions

# Marshmallow has been safely used for centuries.

Ailments

Dosage
Cough
Add 1 tsp. liquid extract to 1 cup (8 oz.) hot water 3 times a day. Alternatively, drink 1 cup marshmallow tea (or a marshmallow-containing herbal cough tea) up to 3 times a day as needed.
Heartburn
Drink one cup tea as needed or 1 tsp. liquid extract in water 4 times a day.
Sore Throat
As a tea, 1 tbsp. dried herb per 8 oz. cup of hot water. Alternatively, mix 1 tbsp. liquid extract in 8 oz. of hot water. Drink up to 3 cups daily.

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24-02-2006, 07:06 PM	#1 (permalink)
chump1976 Gym Addict Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: blackpool Posts: 135	elbow pain was in the gym today doing triceps levers and all of a sudden got sharp pains in my elbows .so stopped them then went onto shoulder presses and same again sharp pain in the carlidge area near the tricep.what should i do ??? drop weight down for a bit?? any help would be great. cheers john __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Big by choice not by chance To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Die Big Die Young:lift: :amen:

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meera CEE...mmmmmm Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: London, UK Posts: 300	REST REST REST!!! I can't stress the need to rest an injured joint my friend! I had that too doing Tricep (behind the neck) presses with a DB a few years back. That injury went on and on and I had to wear an elbow support whenever I trained any part of my arms. It is not pretty at all. Take some Glucosamine Choindroitin and rest the joint. Best wishes on a speedy recovery my friend. __________________ Ain't noone in this world like a Bruce....

24-02-2006, 09:38 PM	#3 (permalink)
hackskii Super Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sunny Southern California U.S.A. Posts: 22,517	A natural anti-inflammatory like fish oils will do nicely too. Like Meera said rest. Ice is the worlds best natural anti-inflammatory too. 20 on 20 off. Heat after 10 minutes creates inflammation. __________________ "Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away." - George Carlin Scott To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

25-02-2006, 12:03 AM	#4 (permalink)
chump1976 Gym Addict Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: blackpool Posts: 135	thanks for your advice lads i am taking 1000mg of fish oil a day with garlic and 1000mg vit c is this enough ?? cheers john __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Big by choice not by chance To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Die Big Die Young:lift: :amen:

25-02-2006, 08:15 PM	#8 (permalink)
hackskii Super Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sunny Southern California U.S.A. Posts: 22,517	Well, just warm salt water will do the best of anything. Some goldenseal and garlic along with some Vitamin C and zinc for the immune system. Just warm salt water and as hot as you can stand it to gargle with. All the other stuff is just trash. Nature works best here. chloraseptic spray for pain works well, nubs that stuff killer. __________________ "Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away." - George Carlin Scott To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

25-02-2006, 07:55 PM	#6 (permalink)
bdc Newbie Trainer Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 64	hackskii- do you know anything to beat sore throats? for the past couple of days it feels like i have swallowed glass. tried honey and lemon and throat lozenges with and without local anaesthetic and anti-bacterial agents. i dont want you to guess at things, if you look on the internet people rattle of dozens of possible remedies, i want one that works!

25-02-2006, 08:24 PM	#9 (permalink)
bdc Newbie Trainer Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 64	marshmallow capsules... funnily enough i have a fresh tub sitting in my back pocket for an occasion such as this lol i will go for the salt water thing now, if my throat still feels sore when i get back i am going to hunt you both down. garlic and vitamin c i have gone for so far, ran out of orange juice now though, these and other essentials are covered in my multi vit but as with most products- percentage absorbed in the body isnt great so i have no idea how much is working and how much is getting excreted

25-02-2006, 09:09 PM	#10 (permalink)
hackskii Super Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sunny Southern California U.S.A. Posts: 22,517	Just do the old folklore medicine of warm salt water gargle, nothing better. Daddy says now do what I say right now Good luck Son! __________________ "Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away." - George Carlin Scott To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

25-02-2006, 09:27 PM	#11 (permalink)
bdc Newbie Trainer Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 64	it did nothing, all respect i had for you was destroyed when you picked my hopes up of a quick recovery and shattered them again in one swoop, i hate you.

25-02-2006, 09:53 PM	#12 (permalink)
hackskii Super Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sunny Southern California U.S.A. Posts: 22,517	Salt is natures healer, works for manythings including athletes foot. It takes time, does nothing for pain. Healing is natures time, not yours. __________________ "Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away." - George Carlin Scott To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

25-02-2006, 09:59 PM	#13 (permalink)
bdc Newbie Trainer Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 64	when its only the pain i notice it would be that i wish to heal! the numbing throat spray i have doesnt work anymore, i guess its been sitting there too long but all dates have been rubbed off

26-02-2006, 01:41 AM	#14 (permalink)
trickymicky69 Wondering how people have the time to do all this over-complicating Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: sunnyside up Posts: 1,121	marshmallow What Is It? Health Benefits Dosage Information Guidelines for Use General Interaction Possible Side Effects Cautions What Is It? Since ancient times, Europeans have relied on the root of the marshmallow plant (Althea officinalis) to concoct cough and sore throat remedies. Interestingly, the "Althea" in the herb's botanical name comes from the Greek word for "heal" or "cure." And the plant's common name--marshmallow--comes from the habitat that it favors: marshes and other damp environments. Marshmallow is native to Europe and western Asia. It can also be found in North America, particularly in salt marshes along the eastern seaboard. In addition to its root, marshmallow's velvety leaves and pale pink or white flowers are occasionally used in healing as well. Interestingly, historians believe that parts of the marshmallow plant were once used to fill hungry stomachs during famines. And in 19th-century America, children with sore throats were given a hardened disk made of whipped marshmallow root juices, sugar, and egg whites to suck on. Despite the name, marshmallow treats roasted over campfires today don't contain any part of the plant. Health Benefits The key ingredient in marshmallow root and leaf is mucilage, a substance that becomes gooey and gel-like when combined with a liquid. This quality has been put to good use, both in internal and external forms, to soothe and protect inflamed mucous membranes and other tissues. Cooled marshmallow root tea has been used to soothe inflamed skin or mouth irritations; it can also be used as a gargle. A compress, poultice, or paste made from the root works well as an emollient for skin irritations and wounds. Marshmallow contains rich stores of various vitamins and minerals, including key immune-system boosters such as vitamins A and C. Specifically, marshmallow may help to: # Soothe a sore throat and suppress a cough. Few herbal remedies have been used for as many centuries--with such great effectiveness--as marshmallow for irritated throat and cough. Try sipping a tea made with the roots or leaves of marshmallow for quelling a sore throat or dry, irritating cough. Even Germany's highly critical Commission E gives high approval marks for these uses. # Lessen heartburn and intestinal conditions, such as ulcers, irritable bowel syndrome, and constipation. The root of the marshmallow plant is particularly rich in mucilage and gets extremely gooey when wet. This quality makes it particularly valuable for coating and protecting irritated mucous membranes in the mouth, throat, and gastrointestinal tract. British health authorities even consider marshmallow root preparations safe and effective for soothing ulcers along the digestive tract. Dosage Information # For cough: Add 1 teaspoon of liquid extract to 1 cup (8 ounces) of very warm water 3 times a day. Alternatively, drink 1 cup of marshmallow tea (or a marshmallow-containing herbal cough tea) up to 3 times a day as needed. # For sore throat: As a tea, use 1 tablespoon of dried herb per 8-ounce cup of very warm water. Alternatively, mix 1 tablespoon of liquid extract in 8 ounces of very warm water. Drink up to 3 cups daily. # For heartburn or other stomach upset: Drink 1 cup of tea as needed or add 1 teaspoon of liquid extract to 8 ounces of water, and sip 4 times a day. Guidelines for Use # Many people use marshmallow tea for healing. It's important to know the proper brewing method: Use 1 to 2 teaspoons of the dried root (or 1 teaspoon of the dried leaf) for each 8 ounces of water. # While very hot (not boiling) water can be poured over the material, the ideal way to make the tea and retain the key ingredients is to use cold water and then gently warm the liquid before drinking. Steep the tea for 5 minutes, and then strain. # For external use, add just enough water to the chopped root to make a paste. General Interaction # Marshmallow may delay the absorption of other drugs when taken at the same time. # According to studies in mice, marshmallow can lower blood sugar levels. It's not clear whether this happens in humans, but it may interfere with treatments for lowering blood sugar, such as insulin. If you have diabetes, consult your doctor before taking marshmallow and monitor your blood sugar levels closely. Possible Side Effects # There are no known side effects associated with marshmallow. Cautions # Marshmallow has been safely used for centuries. Ailments Dosage Cough Add 1 tsp. liquid extract to 1 cup (8 oz.) hot water 3 times a day. Alternatively, drink 1 cup marshmallow tea (or a marshmallow-containing herbal cough tea) up to 3 times a day as needed. Heartburn Drink one cup tea as needed or 1 tsp. liquid extract in water 4 times a day. Sore Throat As a tea, 1 tbsp. dried herb per 8 oz. cup of hot water. Alternatively, mix 1 tbsp. liquid extract in 8 oz. of hot water. Drink up to 3 cups daily. __________________ "if it works use it. if it doesnt, change it. not so hard is it?"

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