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What would you reccommend as a real good leg mass building routine?

At the moment im not worried about defanition in my legs, just need to get some good size and strength into them following my op.

I have put on about 5" on each quad since my op, so its going good, but i still have a long way to go.

At the moment my leg work out is as follows:

Squats - 5 sets, 2 warm up @ 80kg, then 100kg, 140kg, 170kg (6 - 8 reps on these)

Leg Press - 3 sets, 150kg, 200kg, 250kg (6 - 10 reps)

Leg Extensions - 5 sets, 20kg, 30kg, 50kg, 60kg, 50kg (8 - 15 reps)

Calve Raises 3 sets 100kg - 150kg
Calve Presses (On leg press) 200kg - 250kg

Also do dead lifts 3 days later usually, going upto 230kg

At the moment im clean, not on anything other than a bit of Clen / Helios

Going back on in a few weeks, but really need to get these branches turned into trunks.

Thanks

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Squats (only to 60 degrees) Do different reps and intensities each week.

Reverse Lunges. On a smith machine these are quad killers.

Farmers Walk Lunges/ glutes/hams/quads

Leg Curls ( only if you feel you need to punish them more). Straight leg deads are biomechanically ridiculous for your back.

Leg extension are well know knee wreckers, and of little benefit as they are not functional. Get Rid.

Standing calf raises. For Gastrocnemius.

Seated calf raises. (you can use a smith machine for this if your gym doesnt have one) for Soleus.

THis routine is a killer, it really hits the quads and glutes, with some action on the Hams. It is safe and functional too so you should stay injury free and have effective strength not just absolute strength which cant be applied to anything.

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ALso for variety try the multidirectional lunge, http://www.chekinstitute.com/exercise.cfm. All of my clients do this every second leg routine for variety, function and strength. It is nice to do as you don't get bored quickly with it and it works ALL of the leg, quads/hams/glutes/abduc/adduc/gastroc tiring too. You need a big space to do it though
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60 degree squats? i normally go right down, never had any problems in my knees and feel it hits them well. Why 60 degrees? is it to prevent knee damage doc?
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You've got little or no hamstring work there Paul, try some SLDLs or Farmers Walk Lunges - DOMS for a week afterward I reckon looking at what you do now!

Lose the leg extensions - they're useless.
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I do SLDLs and never get any back trouble, get a nice stretch on the hamstring. Good exercise Paul give them a try
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60 degree squats? i normally go right down, never had any problems in my knees and feel it hits them well. Why 60 degrees? is it to prevent knee damage doc?
Absolutely Cap, an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure, or in other words don't wait till you have a knee injury to decide you werent doing them safely.

I posted a safe squat technique in detail elsewhere, look it up if you are interested

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20 rep squats!! absolute killer

SLDL all the way!

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Squatting 3x/week not to failure will do it for you with incremental weight increases. No other leg work.

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Squat 5x5 at a set weight

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Squat 5x5 using 80% of Monday's weight

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Squat work up to a 1x5 (so pyramid up to a 1x5) using a slightly heigher weight than Monday's 5x5.

Do this for 4 weeks, starting easy and adding 5kg each week. After the 4 weeks, deload, then drop the Wednesday workout and continue progressing 5kg/week doing 3x3 on the Monday and 1x3 on the Friday for another 4 weeks. The first 4 weeks period the volume is the stimulus, and the second 4 week period the intensity is the stimulus.

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Thanks all

Just to clarify, I do do hamstring work, I forgot to mention. After leg extension i do the reverse hamstring ones.

I'll stard throwing in some SLDL's as i only do the norm atm.

Thanks all, Hopefully i`ll have 3 trunks soon, not just the one ;)
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Whatever happened to everyone saying "ass to floor"?

I always feel like I'm cheating if I don't go down far enough :(
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Ditto! I got ATF too. I find it WAY easier on the knees than doing half or quarter squats.
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What would you reccommend as a real good leg mass building routine?

At the moment im not worried about defanition in my legs, just need to get some good size and strength into them following my op.

I have put on about 5" on each quad since my op, so its going good, but i still have a long way to go.

At the moment my leg work out is as follows:

Squats - 5 sets, 2 warm up @ 80kg, then 100kg, 140kg, 170kg (6 - 8 reps on these)

Leg Press - 3 sets, 150kg, 200kg, 250kg (6 - 10 reps)

Leg Extensions - 5 sets, 20kg, 30kg, 50kg, 60kg, 50kg (8 - 15 reps)

Calve Raises 3 sets 100kg - 150kg
Calve Presses (On leg press) 200kg - 250kg

Also do dead lifts 3 days later usually, going upto 230kg

At the moment im clean, not on anything other than a bit of Clen / Helios

Going back on in a few weeks, but really need to get these branches turned into trunks.

Thanks

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Depends on how serious you are about gaining the extra mass and wether you dont mind some serious pain for a few days,lol...

I`ve put on nearly 1/4 inch on thighs after a single work out and kept it.......hahahahaha...but it was painfull.........
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cant beat 20 rep squats!, as long as you dont bounce out at the bottom of the rep your knees should handle it ok. Keep it smooth and steady.
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