Gain an inch on your arms in 3 workouts... - UK-Muscle Body Building Community

turbo · 19-06-2004, 07:03 PM

I had heard about this, but a mate emailed me this today.

http://www.askmen.com/sports/bodybui...tness_tip.html

This bloke is giving "advice" on how to gain bigger arms. What does everyone think? I personally dont see how it can possibly work, and his entire logic seems wrong.

For a start, seated barbell curls mean you cant cheat as much when doing them, so id expect you`d have to use less weight. I can easily curl about 120lb for 10 reps using strict form when standing, but theres no way id be able to curl 150% of that seated.

Not to mention this guy is recommending the smith machine and partial - not full movements. And, how can anyone increase the weight by 15->25% a workout. Thats mad!!!!

winger · 19-06-2004, 08:07 PM

Well I agree with the workout but putting an inch onto your arm in 12 days is physically impossible even on gear. Now maybe with sinthol.

I think most people will gain only because they overtrain to begin with. He has you take off 2 weeks for a start. I have heard that the big compound excercises give you the big arms. The arms are a small part of the body and I would bet they get overtrained the easiest.

**hackskii** · 19-06-2004, 09:36 PM

Some guys dont get an inch a year.
Also there is a limit to the size your arms can be.

Even if you could put an inch a year on your arms and you started out with 15 inch arms then in 5 years you would have 20" arms.
Not possible.

winger · 19-06-2004, 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hackskii

Some guys dont get an inch a year.
Also there is a limit to the size your arms can be.

Not with cinthal (sp).

**hackskii** · 19-06-2004, 09:44 PM

He talks about taking a 2 weeks off followed by 1/3 rep smith machine close grip bench's and seated strait bar curls both done @ 150% pound range.
I do agree with his thought on overtraining that about 90% of the people do this.

winger · 19-06-2004, 10:15 PM

Arms, the smallest muscle in the body and it gets hit with all the pushing and pulling. Then after all that you work them again. It's no wonder why the arms get overtrained and dont grow.

turbo · 19-06-2004, 10:19 PM

Several points though. A lot of people do recommend doing just the big compound exercises, as its very common for people to overtrain arms. They are one of the main show muscles and so a lot of people do end up over training them. But, ive tried both lines of thought on this over the years. Ive hit my arms 3 times a week for years, and ive also tried not hitting them at all for 8 months or more to see if the big compounds on their own had any effect.

To be honest, ive not noticed much difference.

This last year ive gained maybe 1/2 inch on my arms in total. That includes 6months of deliberate non isolation arm stuff, relying purely on bbrows, chin ups and benches for my bi`s & tris, and 6 months of including direct isolation stuff like bb curls, concentration curls, close grip bench, tri extentions.

I reckon the arms grow in proportion to the rest of the body, and as long as thats growing then your arms will go. You`ll always get the odd exception to the rule depending on genetics, but in general the body grows in proportion.

winger · 19-06-2004, 10:22 PM

Very nice point. I agree with you 100%

I have tried more, less, heavy, light. I dont get it. I think its more genetics than anything else. :o Maybe I should slap my parents.

robin_3_16 · 20-06-2004, 12:17 AM

ok so we are saying there is no use trying it? i mean i know less is more but say i did that as my arm workout once aweek for 3 weeks is that not undertraining my arms now?
he also tells you to perform it 3 times in 12 days, thats every 4 days
surely if you include a chest and shoulder workout in there then you are overtraining tris
and a back session is overtraining bis soooo.........
anyway what do u think of the routine?

winger · 20-06-2004, 02:23 AM

I think you should try it. I think the guy knows everyone is working other bodyparts and factored that into the workout. I kinda like the idea that for arms I can be in and out in no time.

Im going to try it. Heck if anything I will get stronger.The hard part will be holding back and doing even less sets.

turbo · 20-06-2004, 08:41 AM

If your hitting your specifically arms 3 times in 4 days, then that would be actually be doing more than im currently doing. This last 6 months or so, ive tended to hit arms (and all the other muscle groups) just once a week (so once every 7 days). And I make sure i do stuff like bbrows on the bi`s day and bench on the tri`s day, as well as a few isolation exercises, like this guy details. That way, im not hitting the arms again on a non-arm day much.

What progress have i made since doing this? Well, nothing measureable anyway! Maybe im undertraining my arms then, and should do them every 4 days like the bloke says? This is getting confusing now!

Sam_UK · 20-06-2004, 12:22 PM

your arms will grow in proportion to the rest of your body in my opinion!

if you lift heavy with the compounds then your arms will grow accordingly to what your body deems necessary... providing you eat enough

(sorry if that's wrong, it's just the humble opinion of a young optomistic weight lifter!)

Sam

**hackskii** · 20-06-2004, 10:03 PM

They do grow evenly.
My neck is about the same size as my calves and arms.
Neck and arms the same and I dont work neck.
Calves are just under than the arms and I never work calves.
So how could all 3 be the same and I only work arms?
I think the body keeps them even.
sure calves get worked walking and the neck gets worked by holding the bowling ball head of mine upright but for the most part i only work arms.
I just measured the neck and it is bigger than the arms and calves and I dont even work neck.

winger · 20-06-2004, 10:37 PM

I have seen him work arms and I am not supprised that his calves arent getting overtrained.

turbo · 21-06-2004, 09:23 AM

Ummm... interesting theory there about neck & arms being the same size, as mine are also the same size.

19-06-2004, 07:03 PM	#1 (permalink)
turbo Getting HUGE! Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,123	Gain an inch on your arms in 3 workouts... I had heard about this, but a mate emailed me this today. http://www.askmen.com/sports/bodybui...tness_tip.html This bloke is giving "advice" on how to gain bigger arms. What does everyone think? I personally dont see how it can possibly work, and his entire logic seems wrong. For a start, seated barbell curls mean you cant cheat as much when doing them, so id expect you`d have to use less weight. I can easily curl about 120lb for 10 reps using strict form when standing, but theres no way id be able to curl 150% of that seated. Not to mention this guy is recommending the smith machine and partial - not full movements. And, how can anyone increase the weight by 15->25% a workout. Thats mad!!!!

19-06-2004, 08:07 PM	#2 (permalink)
winger UK-Muscle Male Animal Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Southern California, USA Posts: 10,260 Blog Entries: 1	Well I agree with the workout but putting an inch onto your arm in 12 days is physically impossible even on gear. Now maybe with sinthol. I think most people will gain only because they overtrain to begin with. He has you take off 2 weeks for a start. I have heard that the big compound excercises give you the big arms. The arms are a small part of the body and I would bet they get overtrained the easiest. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

19-06-2004, 09:36 PM	#3 (permalink)
hackskii UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sunny Southern California U.S.A. Posts: 23,185	Some guys dont get an inch a year. Also there is a limit to the size your arms can be. Even if you could put an inch a year on your arms and you started out with 15 inch arms then in 5 years you would have 20" arms. Not possible. __________________ "Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away." - George Carlin Scott To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

19-06-2004, 09:44 PM	#5 (permalink)
hackskii UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sunny Southern California U.S.A. Posts: 23,185	He talks about taking a 2 weeks off followed by 1/3 rep smith machine close grip bench's and seated strait bar curls both done @ 150% pound range. I do agree with his thought on overtraining that about 90% of the people do this. __________________ "Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away." - George Carlin Scott To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

19-06-2004, 10:15 PM	#6 (permalink)
winger UK-Muscle Male Animal Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Southern California, USA Posts: 10,260 Blog Entries: 1	Arms, the smallest muscle in the body and it gets hit with all the pushing and pulling. Then after all that you work them again. It's no wonder why the arms get overtrained and dont grow. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

19-06-2004, 10:19 PM	#7 (permalink)
turbo Getting HUGE! Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,123	Several points though. A lot of people do recommend doing just the big compound exercises, as its very common for people to overtrain arms. They are one of the main show muscles and so a lot of people do end up over training them. But, ive tried both lines of thought on this over the years. Ive hit my arms 3 times a week for years, and ive also tried not hitting them at all for 8 months or more to see if the big compounds on their own had any effect. To be honest, ive not noticed much difference. This last year ive gained maybe 1/2 inch on my arms in total. That includes 6months of deliberate non isolation arm stuff, relying purely on bbrows, chin ups and benches for my bi`s & tris, and 6 months of including direct isolation stuff like bb curls, concentration curls, close grip bench, tri extentions. I reckon the arms grow in proportion to the rest of the body, and as long as thats growing then your arms will go. You`ll always get the odd exception to the rule depending on genetics, but in general the body grows in proportion.

19-06-2004, 10:22 PM	#8 (permalink)
winger UK-Muscle Male Animal Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Southern California, USA Posts: 10,260 Blog Entries: 1	Very nice point. I agree with you 100% I have tried more, less, heavy, light. I dont get it. I think its more genetics than anything else. :o Maybe I should slap my parents. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

20-06-2004, 12:17 AM	#9 (permalink)
robin_3_16 Getting HUGE! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: england Posts: 1,461	ok so we are saying there is no use trying it? i mean i know less is more but say i did that as my arm workout once aweek for 3 weeks is that not undertraining my arms now? he also tells you to perform it 3 times in 12 days, thats every 4 days surely if you include a chest and shoulder workout in there then you are overtraining tris and a back session is overtraining bis soooo......... anyway what do u think of the routine? __________________ Robin

20-06-2004, 02:23 AM	#10 (permalink)
winger UK-Muscle Male Animal Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Southern California, USA Posts: 10,260 Blog Entries: 1	I think you should try it. I think the guy knows everyone is working other bodyparts and factored that into the workout. I kinda like the idea that for arms I can be in and out in no time. Im going to try it. Heck if anything I will get stronger.The hard part will be holding back and doing even less sets. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

20-06-2004, 08:41 AM	#11 (permalink)
turbo Getting HUGE! Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,123	If your hitting your specifically arms 3 times in 4 days, then that would be actually be doing more than im currently doing. This last 6 months or so, ive tended to hit arms (and all the other muscle groups) just once a week (so once every 7 days). And I make sure i do stuff like bbrows on the bi`s day and bench on the tri`s day, as well as a few isolation exercises, like this guy details. That way, im not hitting the arms again on a non-arm day much. What progress have i made since doing this? Well, nothing measureable anyway! Maybe im undertraining my arms then, and should do them every 4 days like the bloke says? This is getting confusing now!

20-06-2004, 12:22 PM	#12 (permalink)
Sam_UK Gym Addict Join Date: May 2004 Location: UK Posts: 100	your arms will grow in proportion to the rest of your body in my opinion! if you lift heavy with the compounds then your arms will grow accordingly to what your body deems necessary... providing you eat enough (sorry if that's wrong, it's just the humble opinion of a young optomistic weight lifter!) Sam __________________ *Currently:* Height: 6'0, Weight: 200lbs, BF: 15% Arms: 16", Chest: 44", Thighs: 26"

20-06-2004, 10:03 PM	#13 (permalink)
hackskii UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sunny Southern California U.S.A. Posts: 23,185	They do grow evenly. My neck is about the same size as my calves and arms. Neck and arms the same and I dont work neck. Calves are just under than the arms and I never work calves. So how could all 3 be the same and I only work arms? I think the body keeps them even. sure calves get worked walking and the neck gets worked by holding the bowling ball head of mine upright but for the most part i only work arms. I just measured the neck and it is bigger than the arms and calves and I dont even work neck. __________________ "Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away." - George Carlin Scott To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

20-06-2004, 10:37 PM	#14 (permalink)
winger UK-Muscle Male Animal Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Southern California, USA Posts: 10,260 Blog Entries: 1	I have seen him work arms and I am not supprised that his calves arent getting overtrained. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

21-06-2004, 09:23 AM	#15 (permalink)
turbo Getting HUGE! Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,123	Ummm... interesting theory there about neck & arms being the same size, as mine are also the same size.