Pull-ups/Lat Pull-downs - UK-Muscle Body Building Community

estfna · 15-10-2007, 10:09 PM

Hate pull-ups so I do lat-pulldowns.
The cable pulldowns are brilliant, but the machines are crap. A mate prefers machine. He's 6'5, I'm 5'10. What else can I do that works the same muscles but isnt either of these 3? Will carry on doing cable pulldowns but I need a bit of variety.

TH&S · 15-10-2007, 10:30 PM

Bad news... you must do them. It's the law.

Both great for width.

Tell your mate to do one while you go on the cable lat pulldown.

Assuming you are doing deadlifts already yes?

estfna · 15-10-2007, 11:36 PM

Yeh, stiff leg with dumbells and usual with barbell. Think I made first post a bit confusing, by cable pull downs I mean the cable machine. By machine I mean some dodgy looking thing that you have to reach up on and strap yourself to the seat. Looking like your flapping when you use it.

Con · 16-10-2007, 12:24 AM

Good lord stop running away from exercises that are hard those are the very exercises you should be doing!
Chin ups with a just out side shoulder width palms facing away from the body grip.
Followed by
Deadlifts with a barbell
=back

**Nytol** · 16-10-2007, 09:26 AM

I have to agree, chins+deadlifts = back.

Bulldozer · 16-10-2007, 09:29 AM

I will third that

chins and deads = back

(i fooking hate bent over rows for some reason, dont feel natural)

simeon69 · 16-10-2007, 09:51 AM

when i train i do both chins and lat pull downs overtraining maybe but the burn feels gooood!!

TH&S · 16-10-2007, 09:55 AM

If you can chin then theres not a real need to do Lat pulldowns...

gym rat · 16-10-2007, 10:20 AM

i always warm up by doing 3 sets of 8reps of chins then move straight to the the lat pull downs. lats are such a big muscle and imo it would be best to train them hard like chest or any other body part

TH&S · 16-10-2007, 10:35 AM

So don't do 3 sets of 8?

Davo · 16-10-2007, 10:37 AM

i like chins and lat pulldowns. I find close underhand grip on the pulldowns hit lats hard.

leeston · 16-10-2007, 10:37 AM

mate - if you hate them so much do them first in your routine. I am not particularly fond of them but I find that if I do them first then they are done and dusted quickly.

Greyphantom · 22-10-2007, 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by estfna

Yeh, stiff leg with dumbells and usual with barbell. Think I made first post a bit confusing, by cable pull downs I mean the cable machine. By machine I mean some dodgy looking thing that you have to reach up on and strap yourself to the seat. Looking like your flapping when you use it.

Agree with the others go for the hard exercises... if they dont kill ya then you will grow... but just a word... why stiff leg deads? for back I would just stick with normal deads on a barbell, heavy with good form... jmho...

TH&S · 22-10-2007, 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greyphantom

Agree with the others go for the hard exercises... if they dont kill ya then you will grow... but just a word... why stiff leg deads? for back I would just stick with normal deads on a barbell, heavy with good form... jmho...

Yup ^^^ Stiff Leg Deads are primarily a leg exercise

I wouldn't ever really do Chins before deads though. Doesn't really make too much sense IMHO - "I can do 8 chins" doesn't sound as good as "I can deadlift 200kgs"

pauly7582 · 22-10-2007, 12:57 PM

We like doing the things we're good at.

Moral of the story- get good at the tough exercises by doing them.

15-10-2007, 10:09 PM	#1 (permalink)
estfna Dieting, ooer missus! Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Liverpool Posts: 1,623	Pull-ups/Lat Pull-downs Hate pull-ups so I do lat-pulldowns. The cable pulldowns are brilliant, but the machines are crap. A mate prefers machine. He's 6'5, I'm 5'10. What else can I do that works the same muscles but isnt either of these 3? Will carry on doing cable pulldowns but I need a bit of variety.

15-10-2007, 10:30 PM	#2 (permalink)
TH&S 170lbs of NATURAL Muscle. 56lbs of NATURAL Bone (Calcium, Collagen and Marrow), 3lbs of NATURAL Tren, 6lbs of NATURAL Test E, 0.5lbs Pregnant (NATURAL) Womans Urine (To pass the NATURAL Drug Test) Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 5,243	Re: Pull-ups/Lat Pull-downs Bad news... you must do them. It's the law. Both great for width. Tell your mate to do one while you go on the cable lat pulldown. Assuming you are doing deadlifts already yes?

15-10-2007, 11:36 PM	#3 (permalink)
estfna Dieting, ooer missus! Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Liverpool Posts: 1,623	Re: Pull-ups/Lat Pull-downs Yeh, stiff leg with dumbells and usual with barbell. Think I made first post a bit confusing, by cable pull downs I mean the cable machine. By machine I mean some dodgy looking thing that you have to reach up on and strap yourself to the seat. Looking like your flapping when you use it.

16-10-2007, 12:24 AM	#4 (permalink)
Con ;-) Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 3,465	Re: Pull-ups/Lat Pull-downs Good lord stop running away from exercises that are hard those are the very exercises you should be doing! Chin ups with a just out side shoulder width palms facing away from the body grip. Followed by Deadlifts with a barbell =back

16-10-2007, 09:26 AM	#5 (permalink)
Nytol UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: UK Posts: 4,128	Re: Pull-ups/Lat Pull-downs I have to agree, chins+deadlifts = back. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

16-10-2007, 09:29 AM	#6 (permalink)
Bulldozer craving a pizza :( Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Kent Posts: 2,390	Re: Pull-ups/Lat Pull-downs I will third that chins and deads = back (i fooking hate bent over rows for some reason, dont feel natural) __________________ If fifty million people say a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing. ~ Anatole France To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

16-10-2007, 09:51 AM	#7 (permalink)
simeon69 should step on stage?? Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: birmingham Posts: 337	Re: Pull-ups/Lat Pull-downs when i train i do both chins and lat pull downs overtraining maybe but the burn feels gooood!!

16-10-2007, 09:55 AM	#8 (permalink)
TH&S 170lbs of NATURAL Muscle. 56lbs of NATURAL Bone (Calcium, Collagen and Marrow), 3lbs of NATURAL Tren, 6lbs of NATURAL Test E, 0.5lbs Pregnant (NATURAL) Womans Urine (To pass the NATURAL Drug Test) Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 5,243	Re: Pull-ups/Lat Pull-downs If you can chin then theres not a real need to do Lat pulldowns...

16-10-2007, 10:20 AM	#9 (permalink)
gym rat loving the bulk Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: northern ireland,londonderry Posts: 2,608	Re: Pull-ups/Lat Pull-downs i always warm up by doing 3 sets of 8reps of chins then move straight to the the lat pull downs. lats are such a big muscle and imo it would be best to train them hard like chest or any other body part

16-10-2007, 10:35 AM	#10 (permalink)
TH&S 170lbs of NATURAL Muscle. 56lbs of NATURAL Bone (Calcium, Collagen and Marrow), 3lbs of NATURAL Tren, 6lbs of NATURAL Test E, 0.5lbs Pregnant (NATURAL) Womans Urine (To pass the NATURAL Drug Test) Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 5,243	Re: Pull-ups/Lat Pull-downs So don't do 3 sets of 8?

16-10-2007, 10:37 AM	#11 (permalink)
Davo Newbie Trainer Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 16	Re: Pull-ups/Lat Pull-downs i like chins and lat pulldowns. I find close underhand grip on the pulldowns hit lats hard.

16-10-2007, 10:37 AM	#12 (permalink)
leeston Any more chicken and I will start clucking!! Join Date: May 2006 Location: Birmingham, West Midlandshire Posts: 2,363	Re: Pull-ups/Lat Pull-downs mate - if you hate them so much do them first in your routine. I am not particularly fond of them but I find that if I do them first then they are done and dusted quickly. __________________ Gobal terror they say that we are at war................ but I dont have time for that 'cos them bills keep dropping through my door. Suburban Knights, Hard-Fi To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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