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Training Frequency

Currently im training:

Tues Chest/Triceps/Abs

Thurs Legs/Biceps/Forearms

Sat Shoulders/back

ive started my first cycle in 3 years and wonder if its advisable i train more often? if so could somone suggest how i should adjust it?

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Re: Training Frequency

Depends what you are training for, and how. I'll assume you are Bodybuilding, as most here are.

There is an old axiom that says “You can train hard or you can train long...but you can’t train hard for long” that is often used to promote so called “High Intensity Training (HIT)”. A more useful axiom would be “You can train to create soreness and fatigue, or you can train often, but you can’t train to create soreness and fatigue often”.

Both methodologies are of value, at the correct time and in the correct context, but this is a classic example of the conflict between maximising training frequency and fatigue caused by training reducing training frequency.


Very high frequency schedules are put in place to take advantage of delayed transmutation. This is a complicated sounding but really dead simple phenomenon whereby loading schedules that do not allow full recovery in the short term can create a large training effect in the long term. Again there is a fine balance between over reaching caused by high training volume or frequency and overtraining; and ofcourse a period of overreaching must eventually be "balanced" by a period of lower training frequency - have a wee search for dual factor training for more on this.


Many athletes (especially bodybuilders) use low training frequencies - ie once a week / bodypart or less. They simply cannot train very often as the fatigue and DOMS caused by their training methodologies prevents them from training the same body part for several days after a training session without overtraining.This would be worthwhile if the resulting soreness and fatigue was coincident with a dramatic level of progress in size or strength but oftentimes it is not. Why is it that most Bodybuilders, when given the choice, will choose to utilise means that enforce low training volumes and frequencies by creating large amounts of fatigue and soreness?

Often, more progress would be made in hypertrophy by adopting more frequent training schedules with less training to the point of fatigue, no training to “failure” and no training with forced reps, slow negatives and other so called “intensity” techniques.

Idealy, when training for hypertrophy training frequency should co-incide with the time scale for protein synthesis. PS is elevated for about 48 hours after training, so each muscle group should be training at least twice and preferably 3 times per week. Balancing this frequency against fatigue whilst ensuring sufficient loading is the trick, but it just take a little planning and forethought.

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Re: Training Frequency

Thanks for the reply, ok so because i only train around 1-2 exercises per bodypart and stop just short of failure i should be able to modify my routine as such:

Mon Chest/Triceps/Abs
Tues Legs/Biceps/Forearms
Wed Shoulders/back
Thurs
Fri Chest/Triceps/Abs
Sat Legs/Biceps/Forearms
Sun
Mon Shoulders/back
Tue Chest/Triceps/Abs

and so on...

please feel free to comment, and remember this is only while i am using steroids- no way in hell could i get away with that frequency when i am not.
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Re: Training Frequency

Looks OK. Drop in a rest day if sign of neural fatigue are present (insomnia, fatigued during the day, irritable etc - difficult to differentiate when on a cycle I know but if you're an experienced user you should feel the difference between normal "sides" and neural fatigue.

Structure your cycle so rep ranges drop over time ie start with 15's then add load each session to work down to 5's or even clustered triples (ie rest pause sets of 3+3+some+some) over the course of the cycle. Add sets as you go so the overall volume remains the same or higher eg (assume 1RM of 100kg)

2 x 15 with 65% 1rm = 2 x 15 x 65kg = 1950kg work done

5 x 5 with 90% 1RM = 5 x 5 x 90Kg = 2250kg work done
4 x 5 with 90% 1RM = 4 x 5 x 90Kg = 1800kg work done

So 4 sets of 5 would represent a drop in overall volume, 5 sets would represent an increase, so the aim is 5 sets by the time reps drop to 5.

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