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**big** · 10-02-2006, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by mrmasive

Thanks big,

Brief training history

Ive been training seriously since may 01, competed as a natural twice (sept 01 & sept 02) at 9st 7lbs and the 10st 10lbs. I followed Mike Mentzer style training throughout and up untill Nov 04 when I decided to use a more standard way of training up untill now.

Started using AAS in June 04 at 11st 7lbs ish and I got up to 14st 12lbs in Dec 05 @ 23% BF, I have now cut that down to 14st 2lbs @ 17%. I have done 6 cycles in that time and have been clean since Dec 05.

I dont do Deadlift (no real reason) so not sure if I can lift twice my weight, I used to do 120kg when I competed for the second time.......

So with that in mind, would you recommend that I follow the info in 'How to grow'????

Thanks for the info big
(sorry about hijacking this thread)

Yes, you would grow fine using the "How to Grow" prinicples, assuming you're starting off comfortably with the weights, adding weight to the bar each week, and are boatloading the protein.

Essentially the best training method is the one you're currently gaining from. As SOON as you stop gaining, you need to change something, but as long as you're still gaining from a routine, stay on it.

mrmasive · 10-02-2006, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by big

Yes, you would grow fine using the "How to Grow" prinicples, assuming you're starting off comfortably with the weights, adding weight to the bar each week, and are boatloading the protein.

Essentially the best training method is the one you're currently gaining from. As SOON as you stop gaining, you need to change something, but as long as you're still gaining from a routine, stay on it.

Ok thanks bud, if I were to give the 'How to grow' a shot and I eat clean and slightly above maintenance then I will still grow and shed a bit of fat with the help of AAS and adjusting along the way etc as the diet will dictate what BF%, am I right????

**big** · 10-02-2006, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by mrmasive

Ok thanks bud, if I were to give the 'How to grow' a shot and I eat clean and slightly above maintenance then I will still grow and shed a bit of fat with the help of AAS and adjusting along the way etc as the diet will dictate what BF%, am I right????

Absolutely. Diet is the key to bodyfat reduction.

If you're looking to gain mass and shed fat at the same time, take a read of some of the carb cycling posts that guys like Tom B and Paul S. If you're wanting to do both simultaneously (which is actually a good idea IMO assuming you're relatively lean already and have some reasonable mass behind you), you want to get yourself into calorie surplus by adding carbs around the times you train (especially right afterwards), but remain in a slight deficit the rest of the time. In effect, this is a timed carb diet.

mrmasive · 10-02-2006, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by big

Absolutely. Diet is the key to bodyfat reduction.

If you're looking to gain mass and shed fat at the same time, take a read of some of the carb cycling posts that guys like Tom B and Paul S. If you're wanting to do both simultaneously (which is actually a good idea IMO assuming you're relatively lean already and have some reasonable mass behind you), you want to get yourself into calorie surplus by adding carbs around the times you train (especially right afterwards), but remain in a slight deficit the rest of the time. In effect, this is a timed carb diet.

Thanks, actually I have just read pscarbs log about carb cycling, just waiting for him to complete the week so I can copy his diet to the letter as I am about the same weight although A slightly higher BF%...:( (I just hope he posts it up as he has been doing as I am also interested to see what he eats and when according to his training)

winger · 11-02-2006, 02:58 AM

Bump.

winger · 11-02-2006, 03:03 AM

On gear I have yet to see a person not make gains. So how can a person say one routine is better than another while taking aas?

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11-02-2006, 03:03 AM	#36 (permalink)
winger UK-Muscle Male Animal Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Southern California, USA Posts: 10,415 Blog Entries: 1	On gear I have yet to see a person not make gains. So how can a person say one routine is better than another while taking aas?