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Old 17-10-2005, 02:41 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hard one to answer but!!

Before people go sticken pins into themselfs i have a question to ask which i know is hard and some what impossible to answer but i'm gonna ask anyway(stubbon **** head!):spammer: If lets say your 5'11 your diets great and you train like a monster and your of good genetics lets say ,what would be a rough max in size you could achieve??

Ya i know but some plonkers got to ask the impossible a!:lift:
Please if you are gonna have a stab at answering please be someone who knows there **** no offence:smoke: .
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Old 17-10-2005, 02:45 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Not sure about weight size - but look on some natural body builder sites and you will see whats possible to achieve without the use of steriods.

Some natural bodybuilders look sh*t hot.
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Old 17-10-2005, 02:47 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Yo ! wazz up Ironman,looked for these natural sites and can't seem to find anything bud,:beer1: got any answers for me my man?
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Old 17-10-2005, 02:53 PM   #4 (permalink)
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However when they are drug tested they could have used quick acting drugs so they would not show up in a drugs test.
So never too sure with this one!!!
But then on the other hand if they were doing that it would be much easier to just enter the normal competitions and be done with it!

Gosh I dont know!
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Old 17-10-2005, 02:57 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Howdy Lauren thanks 4 that:smoke: I know i'm asking hard crap to answer but just trying to figure if 'roid use' is all worth it before i jump!
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You gotta way up the pros and cons first before taking anything mate.
You gotta think to yourself have you gained as much as you possibly can natural. Age is a factor also!
Also there are many supplements out there these days that will help.
Also diet is another key factor, are you eating enough to grow?

Once you have asked yourself all these questions then you can decide if you want to use gear or not.
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Old 17-10-2005, 03:11 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I posted some pic's in 'members pics ' There not right up to date but not far off ,have a peep and let me know what you think?:lift: I'm an old fart at 31yrs old and now find it very hard to throw on anysize which is starting to get on my tit's now so this is why im thinking of taking something.I feel i eat and train as well as i can.
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Yeee haaaa you crazy animal.....

right, the three factors you gave are diet, training and genetics .

two of em (diet and training) can be monitered and fineley controlled but the genetic angle ?? its the wild card IMO unless you have a twin who has reached a point far from you and has the same diet and training routine its a hard one , if not impossible IMO to speculate accurateley.

some folks on here may be able to give you an idea based on a photo.
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YO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Man i ain't even read you post yet i just had to say hello you old outlaw YYYYEEEEEEE HAAAAAAAAAAA! :lift:
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Old 17-10-2005, 03:21 PM   #11 (permalink)
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YA bud nice answer :beer1: Man all them hours spent in the gym '****' i know the Darkside ain't the best way but hay i don't wanna spend the rest of my life sitting around the 13stoner mark!!
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if my input helps ....i got to 14 stone naturaly ....but ...that was leanish too (dont wiegh the fat eh?)..........

two years jooced and i can hold 17 stone at 15 bfp quite niceley ta very much.
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i read quite often that you can achieve 30lbs of lean muscle mass, without AAS, but i take that with a table spoon of salt!
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Old 17-10-2005, 03:30 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Well my man check out my squat routine ! I nearly crapped a LUNG :tongue10:
Hay boys thanks for your input,It's becoming clear now it's time to join the DARKSIDE HA HA HA HA HA H!
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Old 17-10-2005, 03:40 PM   #15 (permalink)
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