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    Large Biceps = useless for boxing?

    I've been looking at my current routine and bearing in mind that I am trying to improve explosive power, and not trying to build a perfect physique, I was hoping someone would be able to give their opinion about this.

    Is Biceps weight training counter productive bearing in mind my goal?
    It was my understanding that bulky biceps supposedly slow punches down, triceps on the other hand provide the snap apparently. So train triceps yes, biceps no.

    I was also seriously thinking about dropping weighted chest exercises, and just going with press-ups + dips. I can't see how having a large chest will help me athletically either.

    Any thoughts?

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    Re: Large Biceps = useless for boxing?

    While it may do to some extent my friend thought because I was big with big arms (they are not) I still punched faster than him. Not being funny look at MMA, I know that's MMA and not boxing but it's still stand up. Look at the punching speed of Brock Lesnar, it's crazy.

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    Re: Large Biceps = useless for boxing?

    I've seen Nigel Benn doing barbell curls with about 70/80kg, and he could knock out a rhino lol.

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    Re: Large Biceps = useless for boxing?

    I think the problem I have is whether continuing with biceps exercises will slow down my jab anymore than it already is. I'm fine with power shots all good, so if I was an mma/muay thai fighter I wouln't worry about it. But i've been adapting my training since christmas trying to move away from bodybuilding and move more towards explosive training, as unfortunately I think i'm loaded up with slow twitch fibers which for a boxer is proper sh1t lol
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    Re: Large Biceps = useless for boxing?

    Have a look at
    http://www.rossboxing.com
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    http://rosstraining.com

    That is the style of training a fighter should be doing imho

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    Re: Large Biceps = useless for boxing?

    Frank Bruno had a mighty pair of arms.

    Biceps are involved in hooks and uppercuts and for bringing the arm back in after a jab, cross etc. so I'd say biceps are pretty important, with the caveat that biceps endurance must be just as if not more important than out-and-out power.

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    Re: Large Biceps = useless for boxing?

    No, Tyson had big bi's in comparison to the rest of him and look at the power he had. Also not blowing my own trumpet but mine are fairly large and apparently had a hard punch when I boxed. It's more technique than anything for having a hard punch.
    Last edited by WRT; 06-06-2010 at 10:13 AM.

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    Re: Large Biceps = useless for boxing?

    Do you actually box or just do a bit of boxing training? If your serious about boxing then I'd forget about bodybuilding exercises and give 100% to boxing training. I boxed amateur for years and never once did a bicep curl in all that time.

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    Re: Large Biceps = useless for boxing?

    franco columbo was a bit of a boxer,still had good technique and
    hand speed as a pro bb.

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    Re: Large Biceps = useless for boxing?

    I rather think you're overthinking this. Having big biceps or doing bicep exercises will not slow down your jab. NOT practising your jab will slow it down.

    IMO you want explosive power then do exercises and sports that are tailored to that end.
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    Re: Large Biceps = useless for boxing?

    Hes talking about speed not power. Practice speed work. I don't think biceps being to big will slow you down to much. My arms are decent sized not huge just over 17 inches but i am still fairly fast.
    Get somebody who is decent at holding the hook and jab pads and work on speed. Don't try to rip the arms off them work on getting quick with the combos off. I hated the speedball it didn't feel natural to me.
    As far as weight training goes when i done the boxing i done one day of Olympic style lifting one day full body work out. Chins, deads,squats, close grip benches with bar and bands ETC. Didn't do any direct biceps work tbh. plyometrics (i think that's how its spelt) are also worth doing.
    Last edited by tmacf; 06-06-2010 at 11:08 AM.

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    Re: Large Biceps = useless for boxing?

    When I was doing lots of boxing training in my younger years the trainers always advised against most forms of weight lifting, except stuff that was used to create explosive power.

    I am definitely slower now than when I was 11 stone at around 22, no way can I punch as fast, and I would put that down to weight lifting.

    In general heavier = slower, flexibility can also become a problem as when you get bigger you become less mobile, well most people anyway.
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    Re: Large Biceps = useless for boxing?

    Bruce Lee weighed 130lbs and was faster than any boxer...

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    Re: Large Biceps = useless for boxing?

    Quote Originally Posted by WRT View Post
    Bruce Lee weighed 130lbs and was faster than any boxer...
    fvck yeah,way faster and power to match tyson.
    he would smash khan into next year,if he were still alive imho.

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    Re: Large Biceps = useless for boxing?

    the biceps and triceps should try to maintain a balance of power/strength, as they work together, ie. when your tricep extends your arm out, something has to provide an opposing force to bring it back in, thats where the biceps come in, they contract, pulling the arm back towards you.

    Like GB said, train for what you do.

    I am currently weight lifting but I do bag work for cardio (and because I love boxing ) and I am fairly strong, have big arms for my weight and I can punch fairly quickly with good accuracy and power.

    Although my main focus now is gaining size and strength.

 

 
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