Bioizer Trenbolone 80

[am1ev1l]

I kinda agree with Robsta on this. Its probably that they are not sloppy with the labelling but they are trying to pass something off as a different ester to make more money. This leads me to think what else would they pass off - i.e. completely different compound or under dosed product. Seems not worth it as Tren is pretty cheap as it is.

[LeanShredded]

Originally Posted by robsta9

fair do's mate, but while there are other makes that do indeed take the care to label their products correctly, therefore looking like they give a fcuk about what they put out, then I think I'll stick with those...
As for price, there can't be much difference. Now if you wanted a Tattoo and I said well there is a tattoist over there that does the same tattoo for £100 and is well known in taking care of his work, or there is another one down that side street that does the same tattoo for £50 but is not so well known....
which one.......................no brainer isn't it....

Ture, gotta be honest though mate, never noticed the packaging error, I should be a little more observant methinks! Especially after a particularly nasty incident last year involving a lot of hospital visits, drainage and antibiotics..........

[LeanShredded]

Originally Posted by am1ev1l

I kinda agree with Robsta on this. Its probably that they are not sloppy with the labelling but they are trying to pass something off as a different ester to make more money. This leads me to think what else would they pass off - i.e. completely different compound or under dosed product. Seems not worth it as Tren is pretty cheap as it is.

Mate not sure i agree with tren being cheap, have you ever bought Methyl-tren or Tren - Hex!!!! F*** me you need a mortgage to do a full cycle on those bad boys!!!

[am1ev1l]

Originally Posted by LeanShredded

Mate not sure i agree with tren being cheap, have you ever bought Methyl-tren or Tren - Hex!!!! F*** me you need a mortgage to do a full cycle on those bad boys!!!

Not to get in to a price discussion but ...... Tren Hex is not that much more than tren ace (10% more from memory).

*I'm assuming its ok if i don't mention an actual price.*

I've never used the Hex, how do you find it - better than ace or enth?

[LeanShredded]

Originally Posted by am1ev1l

Not to get in to a price discussion but ...... Tren Hex is not that much more than tren ace (10% more from memory).

*I'm assuming its ok if i don't mention an actual price.*

I've never used the Hex, how do you find it - better than ace or enth?

Tren Hex is amazing, I use it with a nice heavy test and growth or cutting for a show, excellent stuff, always pleased with the results.

And from memory, good quality Hex is quite a bit more than 10% more expensive, and then of course there is Methyl-Tren (2mg), different ballpark altogether!

[am1ev1l]

Originally Posted by LeanShredded

Tren Hex is amazing, I use it with a nice heavy test and growth or cutting for a show, excellent stuff, always pleased with the results.

And from memory, good quality Hex is quite a bit more than 10% more expensive, and then of course there is Methyl-Tren (2mg), different ballpark altogether!

Na, I just checked the price list.

What's your thoughts of Tren Hex 100mg/ml vs Tri-Tren 150mg/ml? I've used neither.

[coco]

Originally Posted by LeanShredded

Mate I have used this for cutting up last year for a show, really rate it, and its cheap, just dodgy underground labelling thats all, but it does work well, i took 1ml 3 times a week, very pleased with the results.

yeah i used it at 1ml, 3x week, was pleased with it, really cant understand the labelling issue.


is it defo acetate??

if so what a fckin joke!!

[TH&S]

Originally Posted by coco

yeah i used it at 1ml, 3x week, was pleased with it, really cant understand the labelling issue.


is it defo acetate??

if so what a fckin joke!!

Guys you're taking the word of an internet posted called Alban bro who barely speaks english to determine that it is in fact Ace rather than Enan.....

I'd be looking to someone more credible to verify the claim...

[coco]

Originally Posted by TH&S

Guys you're taking the word of an internet posted called Alban bro who barely speaks english to determine that it is in fact Ace rather than Enan.....

I'd be looking to someone more credible to verify the claim...

yeah id like to see some more conclusive proof - altho the dosing does make sense if its acetate over enanthate

[Alban_bro]

Originally Posted by robsta9

Well if it's acetate, why does it not say it's acetate.

I'm sorry but I personally wouldn't use anything that cannot even be bothered to label up correctly. If there's no care going into the labelling etc, what does that say for the rest of it.
I've heard good things about bioizer, but this puts me off period...

Just sloppy work imo

Like a lots of UG labs they will told Enanthate for the half of the range of her TREN, why? for money gain!!
Acetate is cheaper than enanthate...

Remember one thing : acetate is a veterinary form of tren acetic-acid is not made for human I.M. Enanthate of Tren is only from UG labs...

A simple search confirm what i told about....

You could be sure than i'm rigth!

the calcul is simple.

ratio compounds with attached ester bring the formula to give 50 mg of tren with 26 miligramme of hexahydrobensylcarbonate (Negma human-form of inject of trenbolone) while negma doesn't exist you can find two form easy to find: acetate (14 mg ester per 50mg of tren) and enathate (24 mg ester per 50mg of tren)

starting the calculation from the Negma form you have 1.5ml for 76mg of compounds, with only 50mg of tren.

it mean 76/50= 1.52 (ratio of tren free)

Mind it: all formula of tren have to be calculate like this ...mg/ml %1.52 =

for example 100mg of tren heylmethylcarbonate (the real form of the actual hexahydrobensylcarbonate used by UG LABS) come to 65.7mg of free tren and 34.3mg of ester.

Having said those thing you can undertand than using appelation of tren instead of acetate don't bring an once of difference, but it more insteresting regarding onl the price of...

Business is business.

Who care? that's for you:

I'said It's GTG good to go, don't what it's stick on, tren have the same power in enanthate and acetate, You can use in the same frequently both.

In fact real enanthate is not very easy to have, a lot of peaople who think than they are cycling tren-E are dreaming, it's acetate of corse.

[jjb1]

there aint much difference in price of any tren ml for ml, its more to do with the strength and how much ya use weekly that prices it imo

i see no argument at all for something being labelled tren enanthate when its tren act

you wouldnt label sustanon as enanthate and say oh there both simular thats just misleading and frauldulant

[redman]

Wow cant help but feel this is one weird and missunderstood thread.

Trenbelone enathate is not that much more expensive than trenbelone acetate about 10% on average. A lab would not gain much by passing of Tren ace as tren enan.

Taking into account the low dose of this product and it certainly wouldnt be worth it they would save a few pence and certainly not more than 20p per unit.

Most labs I know use tren-enan. The difference in release speed between ace and enan is huge. The effects between ace are felt in a few days where enan your looking at a couple of weeks so IMO it would be easy to determine if a lab were trying it on. It's too much of a risk to do this IMO.

When your talking about Tren HEX its around 3-4 times more expensive compared to tren-ace'enan. IMO tren HEX is a redundent ester. Tren enan is a quarter the cost and the release speed between the 6 ester HEX and 7 ester ENAN is so small both compounds are almost identical.

Also Alban-bro you are wrong the ester weight of 100mg of trenbelone acetate is 14mg so for every 100mg of trenbelone acetate there is 86mg of trenbelone.