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Originally Posted by dirty barry mate the works in a club about 5mins away from me! i was in there the other nite! | The works is full of chavs... 
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I had to up my calories to over 7000 a day before I started seeing gains again. If you think that's easy, think again. And if you think you'll make gains (with or without gear) without eating a decent amount of food, think again. Also if you don't train your legs or back, you'll never reach your potential.
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