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Sir_Winstrol · 12-02-2009, 01:20 PM

Hello,

Background:

Im going to run my 4th cycle starting in the beginning of May. I have done a short and mild oral winstrol only cycle over 3 yrs ago. Second cycle was deca/sustanon at low dosages for 10 weeks with good results a bit over a year ago. My 3rd and last cycle was run last summer with very disappointing results. I did boldenone and Omnadren for 12 weeks (around 375 mg boldenone/wk, and 250 mg omnadren/e5d), Omnadren probably included nothing but oil, got only slight increase in strength.

My current stats are 27 yrs old, 6"2, 225-228 lbs bw (188,5 cm/102-103 kg), bodyfat is around 11-12% (realistic estimate). Benchpress PB 4 x 150 kg (4 x 330 lbs), front squat 2 x 185 kg (2 x 410 lbs), current strength levels are lagging a bit behind (especially the front squat).

My goal for the cycle is to achieve a "fluidless" and dry look for the summer, gain a few pounds of muscle and maybe losing some fat, also major increase in strength is welcome.

I have the following substances:

~35 x Sustanon 250 mg

Have both Karachi (obtained from Thailand by myself) and "Dutch" (which infact is russian, but these have worked well in the past).

2000 mg of testosterone propionate in 20 ml (if I remember correctly) multishot vial

This was of Hungarian origin, supposedly mage by Octopharm.

10 x Trenol-75 (2ml vials, 75 mg/ml) 1500 mg Trenbolone acetate

30 x Clomid, 30 x Nolvadex (20 mg, thinking of buying more) and 5000 iu HCG for PCT.

I was thinking of doing a 14-16 week cycle, will be running trenbolone for max 5 weeks since it is harsh stuff. Where should I run the tren, in the beginning, middle or end of the cycle? Can I start with reasonably low dosage of say 50 mg eod to see hwo the stuff works for me?

Is it wise to diet and cut during the cycle, since im trying to shed some fat and probably seeking to get in to 8-9% bf region? Or should I do the dieting/cutting phase before the cycle and then try to keep the same bf level during the cycle and add some serious muscle? I have quite a fast metabolism.

All suggestions of how I should run the cycle and plan the dosages are all welcome, I'd reckon I should stay well below 500 mg/vk with the testosterone, since im trying to avoid the puffy look..

Also if you have suggestions about including/replacing certain compounds for the cycle, well those are welcome as well.

12-02-2009, 01:20 PM	#1 (permalink)
Sir_Winstrol Newbie Trainer Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 10	4th cycle (Tren A, Sustanon, Testosterone P.), suggestions welcome. Hello, Background: Im going to run my 4th cycle starting in the beginning of May. I have done a short and mild oral winstrol only cycle over 3 yrs ago. Second cycle was deca/sustanon at low dosages for 10 weeks with good results a bit over a year ago. My 3rd and last cycle was run last summer with very disappointing results. I did boldenone and Omnadren for 12 weeks (around 375 mg boldenone/wk, and 250 mg omnadren/e5d), Omnadren probably included nothing but oil, got only slight increase in strength. My current stats are 27 yrs old, 6"2, 225-228 lbs bw (188,5 cm/102-103 kg), bodyfat is around 11-12% (realistic estimate). Benchpress PB 4 x 150 kg (4 x 330 lbs), front squat 2 x 185 kg (2 x 410 lbs), current strength levels are lagging a bit behind (especially the front squat). My goal for the cycle is to achieve a "fluidless" and dry look for the summer, gain a few pounds of muscle and maybe losing some fat, also major increase in strength is welcome. I have the following substances: ~35 x Sustanon 250 mg Have both Karachi (obtained from Thailand by myself) and "Dutch" (which infact is russian, but these have worked well in the past). 2000 mg of testosterone propionate in 20 ml (if I remember correctly) multishot vial This was of Hungarian origin, supposedly mage by Octopharm. 10 x Trenol-75 (2ml vials, 75 mg/ml) 1500 mg Trenbolone acetate 30 x Clomid, 30 x Nolvadex (20 mg, thinking of buying more) and 5000 iu HCG for PCT. I was thinking of doing a 14-16 week cycle, will be running trenbolone for max 5 weeks since it is harsh stuff. Where should I run the tren, in the beginning, middle or end of the cycle? Can I start with reasonably low dosage of say 50 mg eod to see hwo the stuff works for me? Is it wise to diet and cut during the cycle, since im trying to shed some fat and probably seeking to get in to 8-9% bf region? Or should I do the dieting/cutting phase before the cycle and then try to keep the same bf level during the cycle and add some serious muscle? I have quite a fast metabolism. All suggestions of how I should run the cycle and plan the dosages are all welcome, I'd reckon I should stay well below 500 mg/vk with the testosterone, since im trying to avoid the puffy look.. Also if you have suggestions about including/replacing certain compounds for the cycle, well those are welcome as well. Last edited by Sir_Winstrol; 17-01-2010 at 08:49 PM.