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Old 12-01-2005, 07:19 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Gridlock
when people say that keto/atkins diets went badly for them, do they mean they didn't lose weight, the diet is to hard to stick to or the side effects were too bad to cope with?
I lost weight fine. The side effects were fine. The diet was extremely easy to stick to. But I lost a LOT of strength. I was getting weaker each session. I'm pretty sure I ended up in a very catabolic state. The weight I lost was both fat and lean mass.

Unless you're either extremely huge or are lowering your bodyfat below 8%, you should not lose any strength or lean mass on a cutting diet. I fall into neither of those categories, yet I lost plenty of strength and mass on ketosis (and I WAS in ketosis according to the ketostix).

I now cut with extremely high protein, moderate fats and timed carbs. This, combined with lots of low intensity cardio works for me.

I appreciate that ketosis works for a lot of people, but I tried it twice, and lost strength and mass both times (I admit that fat loss happened too of course). That should NOT happen to a 220lb guy on any cutting diet... Screw that!
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