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Originally Posted by cwoody123 I am planning for this to be my last cycle...as i said i just want to be normal nothing else. |
Seeing your pictures i think you're no worse off than some people i have seen although i am not in your shoes and i guess that one really wants to be looking good for the ladies.

I do hope that it was indeed your last cycle since it's fair to say you now look like a 'regular guy' and hopefully you can build on this foundation you've built yourself.
But,please be aware that there are many people who train for 5mins to look like 'arnie' or whoever in time for Friday/Saturday night and therefore need all the help they can get.....or so they truly believe.
On the same vein,i agree with PScarb and ShaunMC about the need to develop a good natural base before starting any 'gear'.Personally i dont use anything and never have done yet i sit here sometimes and laugh when people say they're taking their 3rd or 10th course of gear and STILL look like a newbie....only to find they've been 'training' for an whole year.......on and off!!
PS,PScarb....i dont know how you remain so patient sometimes.