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Originally Posted by Pscarb  i have to agree with Hackskii on this if you use gear you will grow no matter what although i advise many to make sure their diet and training is in order so that the cycle can be as productive as it can be and to get into the practice as these two thing play a huge role in keeping most of the gains post cycle.
if you come off gear and go natural in time you will lose alot of the size you have built i cannot say all of it but a good deal of it it is foolish to think otherwise really...i had 1yr off steroids and yes i competed and i won but i lost 12lbs of lean tissue in that year who is to say that loss would not keep happening??
although i still stand by my comment that diet/training are more important than steroids if not to get big but to remain big.... |
I agree with this. If you rely on gear for growth you will lose a lot of size. If gear is only a training aid, completely different story.
I think all of us have seen the incredibly expanding and contracting lads in our respective gyms.
My point is that the focus on muscle hypertrophy has almost been exclusively focused on some of the basic endocrine hormones, testosterone, insulin, oestrogen, and more recently GH and IGF-1.
The research into muscle hypertrophy is fascinating, and it isn't exclusively hormones that cause muscles to hypertrophy.
I will see if I can find these research papers again, but there have been studies into completely castrated lab rats (+other endocrine organs), and if my memory serves me, men with gonadal dysfunction that have demonstrated muscle growth.