Originally Posted by ShaunMc

This is not meant to be a criticism of those new to bodybuilding but to me bodybuilding is about getting your **** to a gym and lifting weights and then bigger weights then feeding your muscles with lots of good food and then more food, then at some point when you have reached your natural limit taking some gear. Some guys on this site seem to be overly obsessed with the pharmacological side of things before they have even begun to explore their genetic limit. i train coz i love training and lifting weights and pushing myself to the limit . i take gear as its neccesary for my progression and its impossible to compete without it

my gripe is with guys who have been training 5 minutes who post up a pic of themselves that suggests they have very little development and then alongside this they will ask "do i cycle tren with d bol or d bol with growth as i read on the back of a stamp that the receptors respond to blah blah blah " like its going to make the slighest difference when you have so much training to do first ??????

The chemical side is interesting but if its more interesting than lifting heavy iron then go get a ****ing chemisty degree ( i have a degree in chemistry and i missed half my lectures to train... not the other way round lol)