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Old 09-05-2008, 05:56 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Re: pupils on teacher interview panels

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Originally Posted by bb the great View Post
i have to disagree with most of you.

Im currently in university so ive recently been through the whole education system this country has to offer.

i think that at age 16 (year of gcse finals) a small percentage of the students would be more than capable of having a valued opinion that should be taken into considderation. We had a school council, i certainly wasnt mature enough to sit at it, but there were alot of people that were capable of making a sensible decision if they were asked to, normally the girls!

As for the whole point of a teacher being able to teach even if they are not liked: in my experinece i have never had good results from a teacher i did not get on with. Maths, electronics and aeronautics are my strong points, my maths teacher at uni is nuts, running round the class cracking jokes. Electronics: he would tell us his boy hood stories for half the lesson, swearing was common place in our class room, he was literally like one of the boys. He managed to achieve with my class more than anyone in the uk could do, 95% A grades for a/s level. At maths i got 85% at university,but with my boring and mindnumbing a level teacher i failed and got a 'u' .

I find that everyone i speak to on my course holds similar opinions.
Sorry my friend but you have been one side of the fence:

As a student

Lets now put that over and put my posisiton across as a :

Fomer student
Interviewee
Interviewer

I think student boards are good ideas but with all due respect their experience and ability to interview is not at an advanced level universally and this would not be applicable THROUGHOUT schools

In schools where children are less articulate, have different motives and have prejudice, this is simply not a suitable method for recruitment

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mate, no offence, you must have been in school when the cane was still enforced.
as a teacher or student? Which one would you like the answer for?

Also, 'no offence' before a post highlights an iniability to think objectively BTW (just for future reference )

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Im currently in university so ive recently been through the whole education system this country has to offer.
But those who interview teachers haven't?
They have and then they have ben on the professional side of things too, therefore having more knowledge and experience of teaching, not being taught

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Teacher - pupil relationships are key if a student is to learn and excell. Your point about 'delivering a message' is one of the main reasons the education systems is going down the pan.
incorrect, its a change in laws and human rights which have children being able to act like fools with no chance of straightening them out, again from experience, both sides of the fence, though many sectors of education

Before a child tells a teacher to fcuk off and the whole calss cant believe it, the teacher disciplines them in a SUITABLE manner. Today fcuk off is a form of punctuation and kids will walk out of classes, not about the teacher being poor, about the behaviours children pick up in and out of school, the drugs many are on and the 'get out clause' nature of the UK

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i think that at age 16 (year of gcse finals) a small percentage of the students would be more than capable of having a valued opinion that should be taken into considderation. We had a school council, i certainly wasnt mature enough to sit at it, but there were alot of people that were capable of making a sensible decision if they were asked to, normally the girls!
Its only in KS5 Where children are exposed to true analyisng skills and certainly dont get taught them in KS4 hence why when asked questions in A level exams they have to say:

What happened
Why it happened
What were the consequences
Suitable Solutions

IN KS4 kids simply state fact and have minimal analyisng skills and therefore cannot think objectively

Its nice to have student councils, nice for them to have a say on things happening around the scholl but trusting their judgement in the recruitment of a teacher?

Not a chance
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