Originally Posted by jw007

Because using aas you can get away with a lot more, not train as hard, not eat as well, not use as many nat supps and still make gains, so basically you can grow without much knowledge of how or what you are doing wrong.

So you could be doing something incorrectly but making gains so you assume everything is spot on....

As a natural trainer, especially those near natural potential, its harder to make gains unless everything is spot on, so they have to be a bit more careful and scientific about things...

In an ideal world all those that workout would all train perfectly, have the perfect diet and supps knowledge.....
But this is not an ideal world...

I know for a fact because i use aas etc, i dont eat no where near as well as i should, but then again i dont have to as i let the aas do the work...

I would say i have a lot of respect for a high level natural trainer as they have to live like a monk to make progress, where as i would just have another shot then go out on the p1ss PMSL