04-05-2008, 03:05 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Gym & Kitchen
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Originally Posted by Pscarb  you say only epistane but this will suppress the HPTA(shutdown) just as much as D/bol will do the fact you need Nolva etc for PCT tells you this....
i've read it suppresses it mildly, not so sure about dbol but thats highly androgenic as compared to epistane and so wont shutdown as much. and i have nolva and will do the whole 21day protocol PCT thing.
DAY 1, 60MG NOLVA DAYS 2-10, 40MG NOLVA EACH DAY DAYS 11-21, 20MG NOLVA EACH DAY. i've been considered using X-LEAN as a cortisol supressant in order to keep my gains whilst nolva gets to work and my normal test levels can get back and then no more cortisol. yay!
do not be stupid enough to think you will get no sides from this drug or that it will not shut you down as it will....fat and water gain is down to diet not the steroid you are taking you thinking this tells me you have not thought this through..... i dont expect to  never had acne or anything else for that matter and im taking the precautions:
-liv 52 double strenght x 2 tabs a day.
-2-3g vitC
-1g VIT B complex
-3x vit&min tablets daily.
my diet is as follows
20%fat, 40% protein, 40% carbs
which on a 4000 cal diet which is about 1000 in excess, will provide me 400g of protein daily(i've already been told im mad. lol.)
i dont mind about the fat retention, i expect to cut the 1 week after my PCT finishes- so 4 weeks after my cycle.
as for water retention, vit b complex will fight that. i do on the other hand expect to keep thoroughly hydrated throughout the day by drinking about 3L.
you are naive to think this is a safe route at least their are thousands of bits of info to support steroid use and you know what you are getting into unlike epistane which is a designer steroid that has not been tested short term never mind long term....
I suppose its fairly naive. I would like to ask if you know any 18 year olds on the gear, or have used the gear. Mick Hart did and he said he was cool after he used it. He said this to me on the phone lol.
i find it hard to believe Mick Hart would of advised you to use this drug at your age i know Mick very well and this does not sound like him..... | i said to him precisely, i expect to use epistane and what PCT procedure should I follow. he said the one outlined in my e-book, i then said should i take 20mg nolva side by side with it. he said yeh its better to be safe, i said im 18 and i want my balls online quick time! he said use hcg once a week for three weeks and take some nolva. i said will i be cool without hcg? he said yeh, i was.
if hes a good freind can you tell him that im 18, and that what pct should i do to stay safe as poss and that since im 18 would it be cool?
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